PSA cards sold, not removed from set, anyone else have this problem?
JimNJ
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I recently bought 6 PSA graded cards from a large auction house, through collectors corner, but couldn't add any of them to my set because the seller didn't verify the cards were clear of other registrys. This is a pain.I believe any issues should have been resolved before they were sold. Anybody else have this problem?
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Although troubling, give the clowns a day or two. PSA will nuke the previous owners and you will be able to add away.
If the seller is the one that has them in a Registry, then they should clear them. But if they are in someone else's Resgistry, expecting someone else to confirm that they are "cleared" is probably asking too much. Oft times, I've purchased a card and have been unable to add it to my Registry because someone other than the seller has either "stolen" the cert # or had it and sold it and never removed it.
If they aren't cleared after sending the email request, then contact BJ or someone else at PSA and they'll talk you through clearing the certs.
<< <i>Although troubling, give the clowns a day or two. PSA will nuke the previous owners and you will be able to add away. >>
You have to send them front and back scans to establish proof of ownership. They almost always delete the cards from the previous sets the same day.
Who the hell sets up 20-30 auctions and then goes on a lonnnng trip??
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It may be a weird way of thinking, but its psuedo insurance to me. If the card gets lost in transit, or if the buyer claims they did not receive it, then attempt to add it, Ive always beleived PSA would back me by telling me who attempted to add my card if i could prove to them it was stolen.
I always remove it after the first attempt to add it , or when someone tells me they receive it.
Now before someone gets their panties in a ruffle, I have probably sold about 50 cards in my 10 years on ebay. The people I know who i sell a card to, i tell them to tell me when they get it so i can delete the cert.
Steve
I wonder if it would be possible for PSA to add a line to their CERT. VERIFICATION tool which either comes up Unregistered or Registered to a set. Just something to think about for the future.
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<< <i>OK, where is this Cert Verification tool you speak of? >>
and the dumbass post of the year award goes to.... Me!!!!
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<< <i>All PSA would need to do is restrict the use of the Registry, if people refuse to delete cards. They are listing them for financial reasons! I would bet those people would comply and this issues goes away almost entirely. >>
I suspect not. I'm guessing that an awful lot of the "serial forgettors" are actually abandoning the registry and selling off their sets.
It's mildly annoying, but it's so easy to send the mail to Cosetta that I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
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Now is it just me, or does that sound fishy? I'm not totally familiar with how PSA assigns their certification #ers but it does seem to be fairly straightforward.
First off it seems careless to have duplicate certification numbers -- poor quality control at the very least.
Second, what are the odds of the duplicate certification numbers happening to the same card?
Thirdly, what are the odds that two 1960 Topps Yaz RC's, both PSA 9, would end up with the same #'s.
I live in Australia so the shipping is a major pain in the butt. I'll be at the National and will bring the card then but does anyone have any thoughts/comments on this? I would love some feedback.
Has this happened to anyone else?
<< <i>I had an odd thing happen recently. PSA (Cosetta) contacted me asking for front/back scans of my PSA 9 1960 Yaz RC. Seems someone else was trying to add it to their registry set and obviously couldn't. I sent the scans in and the repsonse was that both cards had the same certification number!! Now is it just me, or does that sound fishy? I'm not totally familiar with how PSA assigns their certification #ers but it does seem to be fairly straightforward. First off it seems careless to have duplicate certification numbers -- poor quality control at the very least. Second, what are the odds of the duplicate certification numbers happening to the same card? Thirdly, what are the odds that two 1960 Topps Yaz RC's, both PSA 9, would end up with the same #'s. I live in Australia so the shipping is a major pain in the butt. I'll be at the National and will bring the card then but does anyone have any thoughts/comments on this? I would love some feedback. Has this happened to anyone else? >>
This happened to me before too. I never did send in scans of the card. And PSA never followed up. I still have the card in my collection, still on the registry, so either there was a mistake in the email being sent to me, or PSA fixed the problem on their end or with the other card owner.
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<< <i>I had an odd thing happen recently. PSA (Cosetta) contacted me asking for front/back scans of my PSA 9 1960 Yaz RC. Seems someone else was trying to add it to their registry set and obviously couldn't. I sent the scans in and the repsonse was that both cards had the same certification number!! >>
Vince, this has happened before, and it always seems to involve high $ cards. I know it happened with a PSA 9 '57 Kaline a few years back. There have definitely been other duplicate cert numbers for the same card/grade, I just don't remember what they were. I think one might have been a PSA 9 Rose rookie. Anyway, PSA has always responded that it was a mechanical error, which is impossible. So yes, something very fishy is going on. If I were you I'd check your Yaz 10 VERY carefully to make sure it's A-Real and B-Unaltered. Check the case very carefully as well.
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<< <i>I had an odd thing happen recently. PSA (Cosetta) contacted me asking for front/back scans of my PSA 9 1960 Yaz RC. Seems someone else was trying to add it to their registry set and obviously couldn't. I sent the scans in and the repsonse was that both cards had the same certification number!! >>
Vince, this has happened before, and it always seems to involve high $ cards. I know it happened with a PSA 9 '57 Kaline a few years back. There have definitely been other duplicate cert numbers for the same card/grade, I just don't remember what they were. I think one might have been a PSA 9 Rose rookie. Anyway, PSA has always responded that it was a mechanical error, which is impossible. So yes, something very fishy is going on. If I were you I'd check your Yaz 10 VERY carefully to make sure it's A-Real and B-Unaltered. Check the case very carefully as well. >>
I'd more than willing to bet that one of the two is a fake. The most likely cause, IMO, of the same high dollar card existing in two holders with the same number & grade is that someone used a scan of the real one to generate a fake flip that would pass the cert lookup test.
The "mechanical error" scenario sounds like when the airline tells you your flight is delayed waiting on a minor part. Like you said, think of the odds that a mechanical error during the grading and slabbing process could generate the same number on the same card. Inconceivable!!
EDIT: This is based on my reading of the OP, where it doesn't seem to have anything to do with a failure to remove a card from the registry. This is another person trying to add a card (that they most likely just bought) that you still possess.
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The Duplicate cert # was the EXACT same card as well. Just as Vince described.
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