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SportsamericaSportsamerica Posts: 990 ✭✭
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Ok.. I have won two cards from the same buyer, The next morning I send ask for the invoice total (so shipping could be combined), and I get this..

"These are older cards and shipping is where I make very little,for what the cards are worth,id like to combine shipping for you but I dont want to give my collection away,would you?"

That same day, I get this from the seller

"Im ready to ship,and you will leave me no choice but to leave negative feedback if you dont pay or respond."

In fairness, the auction does not state either way shipping would be combined, so OK I should have asked before bidding..

What would you guys do...

1) Pay for each items seperatly
2) Pay for them combined.. (note he is charging 9.90 to ship 2 ungraded cards)




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Cory
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Working on:
Football
1973 Topps PSA 8+ (99.81%)
1976 Topps PSA 9+ (36.36%)
1977 Topps PSA 9+ (100%)

Baseball
1938 Goudey (56.25%)
1951 Topps Redbacks PSA 8 (100%)
1952 Bowman PSA 7+ (63.10%)
1953 Topps PSA 5+ (91.24%)
1973 Topps PSA 8+ (70.76%)
1985 Fleer PSA 10 (54.85%)

Comments

  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    3) Quit the hobby and take up something less complicated.
  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭
    Pay separately, at least he will be hit with PP fees twice.
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  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926 ✭


    << <i>Pay separately, at least he will be hit with PP fees twice. >>



    ahh the holiday season, a time for giving...I agree what ever will cost him more and if you don't want to out him publicly please pm me so I don't accidently buy from him.



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  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818 ✭
    Sellers like that simply have zero customer service skills; and are incapable of realizing that repeat business is worth much more than the little extra made on a rediculous shipping charge.

    Yes, you probably should have inquired about it first, but I'd say that most buyers would almost expect a discount.

    Pay and move on.

    Not worth your time or energy.

    PoppaJ

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it was me and the deal I got was really good, then I would pay number 2 and chalk it up to a learning experience and ask the question before bidding. If I paid what I thought was fair market then I would pay number 1.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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  • DialjDialj Posts: 1,636 ✭✭
    1. Pay the two different payments.
    2. Don't buy from the Ebayer again, unless he combines shipping.
    3. Learn from your mistakes
    4. Move on
    "A full mind is an empty bat." Ty Cobb

    Currently collecting 1934 Butterfinger, 1969 Nabisco, 1991 Topps Desert Shield (in PSA 9 or 10), and 1990 Donruss Learning Series (in PSA 10).
  • LittletweedLittletweed Posts: 624 ✭✭✭
    That does sound annoying.

    Pay seperately and kindly remind him/her that only you, the buyer, can leave a negative.

    Not that this deserves a neg, but come on, that's just stupid for the seller to even write that - a day after winning the auctions?!?

    Matt

  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    Pay individually

    Move on

    Out the seller
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    How does this seller intend on leaving you a negative? Did I read that correctly? If so, and I did not really

    need these cards I'd tell him to take his cards and (well you get the point)

    FWIW all he had to say was 'I don't combine shipping' I hate when they feel the need to justify it.

    If I wanted the cards and 9.90 on top of what I bid for them was still a decnt deal I'd pay.


    I tipped the local gals at DD 10.00 this morning for a coffee and a donut so the money is not the issue.

    The way the guy responded to me is.


    If all else fails I'd have him beat up.


    Steve

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    Good for you.
  • prscott933prscott933 Posts: 1,976
    Go to the window, open it, stick your head out and yell "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"
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  • 2cardguys2cardguys Posts: 428


    << <i>Go to the window, open it, stick your head out and yell "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" >>



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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "..."Im ready to ship, and you will leave me no choice but to leave negative feedback if you dont pay or respond...."

    ///////////////

    I really don't care what the listing said about shipping.

    Sellers who don't know what they are doing, need to
    vacate EBAY.

    I would pay - with two payments - and leave a NEG. I
    would also bang the STARs.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    How does he make 'very little' on shipping at $4.95 per ungraded cards? I say pay separately and demand two separate shipments since that is what you are paying for.

    Edited to add it the sellers choice to not combine of course, and that should not be assumed.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    The simple fact that he charges $4.95 on one graded card should tip you off to the type of seller you are dealing with.
    I agree with Storm. Pay what you agreed by bidding then neg him and hit him low on the stars...He is probably not going to be around long.
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  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    I would go directly to your local Walmart and pick up a copy of the album "Stay Hungry" by Twisted Sister. Then play "We're Not Gonna Take It" over and over until you feel better.

    Then I'd get Steve to beat him up.
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  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 7,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like Storms suggestion on how to handle this situation. I'm also willing to bet you are going to receive these cards in a PWE.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Pay the items...seperately

    Leave DSR's honestly, which would be low on some categories

    NEG him for threatening negative feedback.



    Your feedback would then be honest and not retaliatory.
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    How does he make 'very little' on shipping at $4.95 per ungraded cards?
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    Burke that is not what he said or meant. He claims he sold the cards and got little for them and the shipping is a way for him to

    make up his lost profits.


    I suggest he start his items at a price point where he does not have to depend on shipping to make his money.

    All he is doing is what I call fee avoidence.



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I still don't get, how he as a seller can leave a negative.



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    He can't Steve. He was just talking out his ass or completely clueless - or both
  • SportsamericaSportsamerica Posts: 990 ✭✭
    Well I paid for one item today... Maybe I will wait a day or two to pay for the other "just for the sprit of the deal"
    Cory
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    Working on:
    Football
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (99.81%)
    1976 Topps PSA 9+ (36.36%)
    1977 Topps PSA 9+ (100%)

    Baseball
    1938 Goudey (56.25%)
    1951 Topps Redbacks PSA 8 (100%)
    1952 Bowman PSA 7+ (63.10%)
    1953 Topps PSA 5+ (91.24%)
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (70.76%)
    1985 Fleer PSA 10 (54.85%)
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    << slow golf clap >>>

    Well played, sir...

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  • SlAtSlAt Posts: 267


    << <i>Well I paid for one item today... Maybe I will wait a day or two to pay for the other "just for the sprit of the deal" >>



    Now you need to E-Mail him every half hour asking if it has shipped yet, and what is the delivery Confirmation number!image

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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>


    I suggest he start his items at a price point where he does not have to depend on shipping to make his money.

    All he is doing is what I call fee avoidence.



    Steve >>



    exactly, .15 vs .35 listing fees...like listing 100 cards at 15 or 35.00....the seller thinks he will make it up in shipping instead.

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    Sportsamerica, return the cards to him as soon as they arrive and purchase delivery confirmation. Don't message him that you sent the cards back. He will most likely send you a message asking why they were returned...and then you have delivery confirmation plus a message from him that they are in his possession. At this time immediately file a paypal dispute and then right afterward escalate it to a claim as he has the items and is not complying with your return. During this process do not send any personal messages to him. This keeps you from saying "the wrong thing" and will only annoy him more.

    Even if his auction/listing states "No Returns" eBay offers virtually no protection for their sellers which means, as a buyer, you get whatever you want.

    Patrick
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    If you want to ensure that he ships two separate times, pay for one item and pay for the second AFTER the first arrives. You'll hit him for extra PayPal fees and he'll have to pay for two mailings. Then you can leave whatever feedback you wish, including a slap to the DSR's...
  • DrLouDrLou Posts: 250
    These are older cards and shipping is where I make very little,for what the cards are worth From my understanding sellers are not allowed to "make $" from shipping in this manner. Perhaps an experienced eBay seller can confirm this. If this is true, you should go guns a blazin' ballistic on this clown
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Tis true Dr. Lou. I mean one can do it, but one can't say they is doin it.


    Just like one can cheat on taxes, just don't be braggin bout it.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    A slap is always good.


    Unless of course I is the one gettin it.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • DrLouDrLou Posts: 250
    Ha Ha win Pitcher but hopefully you aren't getting slapped for this kind of seller misconduct
  • SmuggoSmuggo Posts: 425 ✭
    It will be interesting to see if he would ship them in the same package if you paid simultaneously. I have a feeling he would as much of a tool as he sounds like.
    Collecting Pre-War, Pre-War HOF Types, Pre-War Postcards
  • SportsamericaSportsamerica Posts: 990 ✭✭
    Well got my first card from the seller yesterday... Came in a PWE, and of course it is creased.... $4.95 to ship, and ships in a PWE...
    Cory
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    Working on:
    Football
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (99.81%)
    1976 Topps PSA 9+ (36.36%)
    1977 Topps PSA 9+ (100%)

    Baseball
    1938 Goudey (56.25%)
    1951 Topps Redbacks PSA 8 (100%)
    1952 Bowman PSA 7+ (63.10%)
    1953 Topps PSA 5+ (91.24%)
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (70.76%)
    1985 Fleer PSA 10 (54.85%)
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Have a link to the auction(s)?



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • JohnnyDJohnnyD Posts: 521 ✭✭
    More info on who this clown is....I don't want to buy from this loser.
  • ICE9ICE9 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭


    << <i>More info on who this clown is....I don't want to buy from this loser. >>



    Yes, please ID this d-bag.
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  • SportsamericaSportsamerica Posts: 990 ✭✭
    auction #1

    The one I have not gotten yet

    Auction 2
    Cory
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    Working on:
    Football
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (99.81%)
    1976 Topps PSA 9+ (36.36%)
    1977 Topps PSA 9+ (100%)

    Baseball
    1938 Goudey (56.25%)
    1951 Topps Redbacks PSA 8 (100%)
    1952 Bowman PSA 7+ (63.10%)
    1953 Topps PSA 5+ (91.24%)
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (70.76%)
    1985 Fleer PSA 10 (54.85%)
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    If PayPal will not refund the improperly collected
    shipping-charge ($4.95), a chargeback can be
    initiated at the credit-card company for that
    amount.

    ............................


    Shipping and handling costs

    Be sure to specify shipping costs and related service charges in your listings. It's against our rules to...........charge unreasonable fees for shipping and related services.

    What you can charge

    Actual shipping cost: This is the amount for shipping the item. It should be what you paid the carrier.

    Handling cost: This can include the cost of packaging materials and insurance cost, if any.

    Delivery Confirmation and extra services: If these options are offered to the buyer, you can only charge what they actually cost. Examples of services include:

    Certificate of Mailing

    Certified Mail

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    Delivery Confirmation

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    What you're not allowed to charge

    Insurance: You can't charge a separate fee for insurance, although you still need to make sure your item arrives as described.

    Tip: You should incorporate any insurance fees into an item's price or handling cost.

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    Tip: Remember not to inappropriately classify an item as a gift as a way to avoid certain duties, tariffs, or customs fees. U.S. law prohibits submitting false or misleading customs information.

    Related fees: Things like gas, mileage, time spent at a carrier, employee wages, or eBay and PayPal fees should not be added.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The seller should have started the auction at the least he was willing to take.

    After it sold for .99 he had to get the extra shipping to make it up.


    Smart sellers start similar cards at 4.99 at the least especially for the 2nd one.


    I think a couple of negs are deserved in this case


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Looks like the card may already have had a crease before he mailed it. PWE's stink though. But then 99 cents for a 1948 card ain't bad. But it was actually $6 for a 48 beater, which probably isn't good. Never mind. I don't know what I think here.

    "Molon Labe"

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,186 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I still don't get, how he as a seller can leave a negative.


    Steve >>



    Seller is either ignorant about the ebay rule change regarding this from awhile back, or is bluffing and hoping the buyer isn't aware of the ebay rule change - either way the seller comment to the buyer is pathetic.

    edited: oops...already noted on page 2. LOL
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    You're pathetic.


    lol


    J/K


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • jzimmerman85jzimmerman85 Posts: 66 ✭
    1. pay for the cards
    2. get the cards in the mail
    3. ????????
    4. PROFIT!!!
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