Will PSA grade 1984 Topps Encased?
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I haven't been able to find any of them in the pop report, but I might have missed it.
I don't know much about the issue, but here's what is written in an ebay listing that I'm looking at:
This card is one of the 66 cards in a complete set of the 1984 Topps ENCASED DESIGN baseball cards. Topps did a test design printing run of 66 skip-numbered cards of the 792 card numbers in the 1984 Topps baseball card set. All of the cards in this subset are BLANK-BACKED but are NOT "proofs". These are TEST DESIGN cards and were originally issued only in sheet form. The large SCD Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards erroneously calls these cards "proofs". Though proofs of the 1984 Topps ENCASED DESIGN cards were placed up for auction by the Topps Vault, those cards are true proofs and should not be confused with the full 4-color process cards. The cards offered by the Topps Vault indeed do qualify as "progressive proofs" because — unlike the full 4-color process card of this auction —each of those cards was missing at least one of the four standard printing ink colors. In the card of this auction all of the four printing colors (yellow, black, cyan & magenta) are present just like in the very common regular issue 1984 Topps card. However, the very rare ENCASED cards have a different design from the common 1984 Topps cards. As can be seen in the side by side scan of this auction showing a closeup of the player's portrait on the ENCASED version next to that of the regular version, the top of the head of the player is COMPLETELY WITHIN — that is ENCASED WITHIN — the black border of the portrait box in the ENCASED VERSION but extends onto and outside of the top of the black border in the common regular version.
Reportedly only a few hundred sets of the 1984 ENCASED DESIGN cards were issued by Topps. Occasionally a set in sheet form appears in online auctions. However, these sheets are almost always damaged, with badly scratched surfaces, creases, water stains, and other very significant defects. And even the SCD Standard Catalog recognizes that a set in individual card form is of greater value than a set in sheet form. This auction is for one of the cards in a complete set of 84T ENCASED DESIGN Variations that is being broken up for bidding on eBay. I am placing ALL of the 66 cards in this set in individual auctions on eBay, so please be certain to check my auctions for the card numbers you need. As far as I know, no one has ever before broken a complete set of these very rare cards and placed all 66 cards in the set up for auction individually on eBay. Most of the cards being placed up for bidding have four sharp corners and are NM-MT to MINT.
The 1984 ENCASED DESIGN cards are obviously not "errors" but definitely are VARIATIONS compared to the common design version of the 792-card 1984 Topps regular baseball card set. That said, there are two cards in the 84T ENCASED DESIGN set that are errors: #70 GARY MATTHEWS has the portrait of STEVE CARLTON and #780 STEVE CARLTON has the portrait of GARY MATTHEWS. ENCASED DESIGN card #180 (MANNY TRILLO) has been called an error because Trillo is pictured and named as a CLEVELAND INDIAN and Trillo is pictured and name as a MONTREAL EXPO on the common regular version in the 792-card 84T Topps set. The ENCASED DESIGN card obviously is a VARIATION but is not an error because at the time of the creation of the ENCASED DESIGN sheet Trillo was still on the roster of the Cleveland Indians and did not move to the Montreal Expos until later — and the common regular 84T version reflects this change.
Here's an example (from the same listing):
I don't know much about the issue, but here's what is written in an ebay listing that I'm looking at:
This card is one of the 66 cards in a complete set of the 1984 Topps ENCASED DESIGN baseball cards. Topps did a test design printing run of 66 skip-numbered cards of the 792 card numbers in the 1984 Topps baseball card set. All of the cards in this subset are BLANK-BACKED but are NOT "proofs". These are TEST DESIGN cards and were originally issued only in sheet form. The large SCD Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards erroneously calls these cards "proofs". Though proofs of the 1984 Topps ENCASED DESIGN cards were placed up for auction by the Topps Vault, those cards are true proofs and should not be confused with the full 4-color process cards. The cards offered by the Topps Vault indeed do qualify as "progressive proofs" because — unlike the full 4-color process card of this auction —each of those cards was missing at least one of the four standard printing ink colors. In the card of this auction all of the four printing colors (yellow, black, cyan & magenta) are present just like in the very common regular issue 1984 Topps card. However, the very rare ENCASED cards have a different design from the common 1984 Topps cards. As can be seen in the side by side scan of this auction showing a closeup of the player's portrait on the ENCASED version next to that of the regular version, the top of the head of the player is COMPLETELY WITHIN — that is ENCASED WITHIN — the black border of the portrait box in the ENCASED VERSION but extends onto and outside of the top of the black border in the common regular version.
Reportedly only a few hundred sets of the 1984 ENCASED DESIGN cards were issued by Topps. Occasionally a set in sheet form appears in online auctions. However, these sheets are almost always damaged, with badly scratched surfaces, creases, water stains, and other very significant defects. And even the SCD Standard Catalog recognizes that a set in individual card form is of greater value than a set in sheet form. This auction is for one of the cards in a complete set of 84T ENCASED DESIGN Variations that is being broken up for bidding on eBay. I am placing ALL of the 66 cards in this set in individual auctions on eBay, so please be certain to check my auctions for the card numbers you need. As far as I know, no one has ever before broken a complete set of these very rare cards and placed all 66 cards in the set up for auction individually on eBay. Most of the cards being placed up for bidding have four sharp corners and are NM-MT to MINT.
The 1984 ENCASED DESIGN cards are obviously not "errors" but definitely are VARIATIONS compared to the common design version of the 792-card 1984 Topps regular baseball card set. That said, there are two cards in the 84T ENCASED DESIGN set that are errors: #70 GARY MATTHEWS has the portrait of STEVE CARLTON and #780 STEVE CARLTON has the portrait of GARY MATTHEWS. ENCASED DESIGN card #180 (MANNY TRILLO) has been called an error because Trillo is pictured and named as a CLEVELAND INDIAN and Trillo is pictured and name as a MONTREAL EXPO on the common regular version in the 792-card 84T Topps set. The ENCASED DESIGN card obviously is a VARIATION but is not an error because at the time of the creation of the ENCASED DESIGN sheet Trillo was still on the roster of the Cleveland Indians and did not move to the Montreal Expos until later — and the common regular 84T version reflects this change.
Here's an example (from the same listing):
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and inserted into pack form so someone cut them down. This is probably why PSA doesn't grade them?
I would imagine you could slip one or two by them unless the backs are blank?
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<< <i>The thing with these is that they were only available in sheet form. They were not cut up
and inserted into pack form so someone cut them down. This is probably why PSA doesn't grade them?
I would imagine you could slip one or two by them unless the backs are blank? >>
Backs are blank
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