Home U.S. Coin Forum

New territory for me trying to buy a coin from a dealer...UPDATED!

RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
At the referral of a collecting friend, I called a coin dealer whom I had never contacted before (heck, I never heard of him) about a coin that he had for sale. The friend had seen the coin and thought it would be right up my alley. The friend has done a lot of business with this dealer, and the dealer has a shop and an internet presence.

I mentioned the friend's name, told him about the coin I wanted, and asked for a price. He said that he did not know offhand what the price would be but that it would be a "good price". Not knowing what do next, I suggested that he call me when he knows what he wants for it. He seemed a little miffed about all this and reluctantly took down my phone number.

It was an extremely awkward conversation, and I immediately got the impression that either the seller was not interested in doing business that or that I was interrupting something. He never said that he was in the middle of something, to call back later, or suggested that he call back later. I doubt that I will hear from the dealer again. The whole exchange was very odd.

If I were Longacre, I would have one of my assistants fly private jet out to gather up the coin, but unfortunately I do not have such resources at my disposal. image Of course, if I were Longacre, the seller would probably part the Red Sea to deliver the coin to me personally. image

It's probably just as well. I was trying to make it through the rest of the year without buying anything else (and my wife just called to tell me how much money she just saved me when she bought a new fireplace image ). image

Comments



  • << <i>I mentioned the friend's name, told him about the coin I wanted, and asked for a price. He said that he did not know offhand what the price would be but that it would be a "good price". Not knowing what do next, I suggested that he call me when he knows what he wants for it. He seemed a little miffed about all this and reluctantly took down my phone number. >>



    Coin collecting can be very, very difficult.
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>At the referral of a collecting friend, I called a coin dealer whom I had never contacted before (heck, I never heard of him) about a coin that he had for sale. The friend had seen the coin and thought it would be right up my alley. The friend has done a lot of business with this dealer, and the dealer has a shop and an internet presence.

    I mentioned the friend's name, told him about the coin I wanted, and asked for a price. He said that he did not know offhand what the price would be but that it would be a "good price". Not knowing what do next, I suggested that he call me when he knows what he wants for it. He seemed a little miffed about all this and reluctantly took down my phone number.

    It was an extremely awkward conversation, and I immediately got the impression that either the seller was not interested in doing business that or that I was interrupting something. He never said that he was in the middle of something, to call back later, or suggested that he call back later. I doubt that I will hear from the dealer again. The whole exchange was very odd.

    If I were Longacre, I would have one of my assistants fly private jet out to gather up the coin, but unfortunately I do not have such resources at my disposal. image Of course, if I were Longacre, the seller would probably part the Red Sea to deliver the coin to me personally. image

    It's probably just as well. I was trying to make it through the rest of the year without buying anything else (and my wife just called to tell me how much money she just saved me when she bought a new fireplace image ). image >>




    Was he a major dealer in the Northeast? He may have just sat down to a nice deli-made hot pastrami on rye, in which case I wouldn't want to be bothered either.
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have had similar experiences with dealers.
    While there are some great dealers out there, there seems to be an unusually high percentage of odd ones. image
    I just move on. After all if they don't want to sell something, who am I to argue?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I mentioned the friend's name, told him about the coin I wanted, and asked for a price. He said that he did not know offhand what the price would be but that it would be a "good price". Not knowing what do next, I suggested that he call me when he knows what he wants for it. He seemed a little miffed about all this and reluctantly took down my phone number. >>



    Coin collecting can be very, very difficult. >>



    Collecting is quite easy. It's the coin dealing part that appears to be difficult. All I wanted to know is how much to make out the check for.

    Yes, I have moved on. It was nothing one-of-a-kind or or once-in-a-lifetime. If he calls me back, I am still willing to write the check. If not, I do not plan to further pursue it.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    A clear lack of pull by your "collecting friend." image


  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I mentioned the friend's name, told him about the coin I wanted, and asked for a price. He said that he did not know offhand what the price would be but that it would be a "good price". Not knowing what do next, I suggested that he call me when he knows what he wants for it. He seemed a little miffed about all this and reluctantly took down my phone number. >>



    Coin collecting can be very, very difficult. >>



    Collecting is quite easy. It's the coin dealing part that appears to be difficult. All I wanted to know is how much to make out the check for.

    Yes, I have moved on. It was nothing one-of-a-kind or or once-in-a-lifetime. If he calls me back, I am still willing to write the check. If not, I do not plan to further pursue it. >>



    Was the coin actively for sale? Or did you friend reveal some secret coin that the dealer didn't want anyone to know about, hence the awkwardness of the whole thing?

    Not that that would be a big deal, but it is the only logical explanation I can think of.
  • Maybe your reputation preceeds you image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I mentioned the friend's name, told him about the coin I wanted, and asked for a price. He said that he did not know offhand what the price would be but that it would be a "good price". Not knowing what do next, I suggested that he call me when he knows what he wants for it. He seemed a little miffed about all this and reluctantly took down my phone number. >>



    Coin collecting can be very, very difficult. >>



    Collecting is quite easy. It's the coin dealing part that appears to be difficult. All I wanted to know is how much to make out the check for.

    Yes, I have moved on. It was nothing one-of-a-kind or or once-in-a-lifetime. If he calls me back, I am still willing to write the check. If not, I do not plan to further pursue it. >>



    Was the coin actively for sale? Or did you friend reveal some secret coin that the dealer didn't want anyone to know about, hence the awkwardness of the whole thing?

    Not that that would be a big deal, but it is the only logical explanation I can think of. >>



    Actually, the coins were displayed in the dealer's case at the shop earlier this week (as I understand it).

    Maybe your reputation preceeds you

    My reputation for paying promptly, without haggling, with a good check? image
  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    Tell me who the guy is, what coin you want. I will buy it and only charge you a 10% fee.
    image
    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Maybe your friend forgot to tell you not to mention his name.
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Funny, my wife never spends money either, she only reports how much she "saved"...boy, she sure saves a lot!!!image
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • I hope you at least mentioned that you were the author of several numismatic books that dealers can’t keep on the bookshelf, and most well known dealers would stop the clock just for an opportunity to cut a deal with you. imageimageimage

    Editted: After my quick reply I noticed my post would have been more appropriate for RWB not RYK, sorry Doc & Robert.image
    OLDER IS BETTER
  • This content has been removed.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I have moved on. It was nothing one-of-a-kind or or once-in-a-lifetime. If he calls me back, I am still willing to write the check. If not, I do not plan to further pursue it.

    I agree with you.image
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,319 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because the dealer did not know you, it is possible that he was "feeling" you out to see what you might offer off the top. Then he would know whether you were in the ballpark. I have dealt with heavy equipment dealers and there salesmen who actively use that technique in a market where one cannot merely go elsewhere for the same item. I assume they are afraid of leaving money on the table when your buying practices are not known to them. JMO
    Jim

    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The dealer called me back, apologized for taking so long, and was as nice and friendly as could be. We had a very pleasant and normal conversation. Not only that, he had even more coins for me than I expected.

    It looks like I jumped the gun by being impatient. image
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The dealer called me back, apologized for taking so long, and was as nice and friendly as could be. We had a very pleasant and normal conversation. Not only that, he had even more coins for me than I expected.

    It looks like I jumped the gun by being impatient. image >>





    Longacre sees that his phone call to the dealer worked. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • It is possible the dealer did not have the coin in hand. It could be out on memo. It could have been memo'd to him - maybe he had to make sure it was still available. Glad it worked out.

    merse

  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    maybe they have a couple lines and were talking to someone else when you got them (and other person was on hold




    how much will you save when your wife buys the house around her fireplace?
  • JazzmanJABJazzmanJAB Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭
    You need patience for poker, not coin collecting.image
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,715 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The dealer called me back, apologized for taking so long, and was as nice and friendly as could be. We had a very pleasant and normal conversation. Not only that, he had even more coins for me than I expected.

    It looks like I jumped the gun by being impatient. image >>




    That or he reads the forum.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • I always enjoy a numismatic happy ending.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    That or he reads the forum.

    >>



    Precisely what I was thinking.
  • In some establishments impatience is rewarded with no soup.
  • If the dealer has an internet presence, it may pop up on his website. If it does not,
    chances are he may have had another buyer in mind (some good customer who has done
    lots of business with him), and he intended to offer the coin to him first.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I always enjoy a numismatic happy ending. >>




    don't they all involve money?
  • The dealer must have gotten wind of your wanting to write him a check so eagerly. Maybe he reads this message board.
    Sounds like some of the sorry salespersons, at coin shows, that are too busy to look up, while you stand right in front of them, looking at their money cases.
    Thankfully, most are not this way. Why these people are even in sales is beyond me. They go to all the expense of being there and act like it is really putting them out. I especially like the ones that sit and read a book, never looking up. If it weren't for the good dealers, who would want to attend a show and deal with a bunch of deadheads?
    Keep up the good work, dealers that show your interest in what you are doing!

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file