Thread with pack resealers

minnesotahusker

Can someone point me to the thread(s) of known pack resealers and their buying IDs? I might have one to add. Thanks.

dzolot

What are you looking to sell? I may be interested. Thanks!

summerof68

The most prolific pack counterfeiter currently on ebay is (tarheels17032). His alias buyer id to purchase his wrappers, singles etc. is (codyemma17). For example he recently sold a '71 bb opc wax box for $2800 and the buyer left him a negative saying the packs were resealed--what a surprise! He's been doing this now for a couple of years incorporating other ids such as (hunter17045) & (pastoney)--both of which ebay has kicked off.

The second largest seller of counterfeit packs currently on ebay is a person who routinely sells homemade vintage cellos. His id is (camandmaryscards). He began selling bogus '58 bb cellos (with the wrong rear seal configuration-not even close) over a year ago and continues to list bogus bb & fb cellos as of today. He usually will list only one cello at a time to stay under the radar but as of late he has kicked into high gear with lots of listings--he must be trying to meet the Christmas damand.

Recently he had listed some bad 1970 bb cellos which looked to contain only 12 cards. Authentic '70 bb cellos came with 33 cards--there are no variations.

If all his '58 & '70 bb cellos were counterfeit then what does this say about the rest of them including his '69 fb cello currently on ebay.

Of course the seller might simply not be aware of this and is only selling these on consignment. I'll leave it to you buyers to decide!

minnesotahusker

<< <i>What are you looking to sell? I may be interested. Thanks! >>



Classy.

Actually it's summerof68 that I was hoping would chime in. PM will be sent shortly after my conference call here.

hammered

Uh-oh.

I just mailed a lot to that buyer (codyemma) late last week. Sent about 400 75 minis his way.

He paid by echeck and it took forever to clear his bank.

Too late this time, but I just blocked him as a bidder on my future auctions. I guess be on the lookout for bogus mini packs.

BTW, the last time I suspected that one of my lots was being purchased by a resealer, the buyer never paid so no problem there.

OAKESY25

I almost bought 5 packs of 72 topps from camandmaryscards last week, deal seemed too good so I passed..
tried to find something here on them but was unable to.

summerof68

I too saw his listing for (5) authentic '72 bb wax packs in a (buy it now) for only $120. Why would any experienced pack seller such as (camandmaryscards) sell (5) authentic '72 bb wax packs for only $120? Of course they were bad.

Actually I think this was camandmary's first attempt at selling bad wax so they were "testing the waters". Keep your eyes open out there guys. It's the Christmas season and the counterfeiters are increasing and (expanding) their endeavors....

Incidently (camandmaryscards) sells out of a retail coin shop in New Jersey. The owner likes to brag about all the $20 gold pieces he has been selling of late yet while at the same time he's stiffing people with $24 bogus '72 wax packs....talk about getting your stocking stuffed!!

summerof68

Talk about a coincidence. Just now camandmarys cards just listed on ebay another 1970 baseball series 6 cello pack in a one-day-only auction with an opening bid of only $59. Why would anyone throw on a $600 pack in just a one day auction with a low opening bid? Looks like he wants to get rid of it quickly.

He hasn't downloaded a picture yet either. You can bet it will be another skinny 12 card pack as opposed to an authentic 33 card pack.

He states it's his last '70 pack. Hmmm...what timing...could he be reading this thread?

jmoran19

FYI, totally fake 1968 rak pack. Look at the pic with the header card, plastic is WAY to new and thin, plus the header card is not punched.

fake pack

jmoran19

and another one, looks like Tennessee is the new home of counterfeiters.



bad 69 rak

fiveniner

<< <i>and another one, looks like Tennessee is the new home of counterfeiters.



bad 69 rak >>



I bought a box of 84s back in the day from a guy in tennesee all commons but 3 cards.After I got near the bottom of the box I finally noticed what appeared to be residue from Elmers Glue on the packs unfortunatley I was back home in Michigan when I opened them.Can not remmember the Store but it was in Jackson TN,

leftofdial

I haven't seen very many racks that old in person, but shouldn't the header piece have the four-quartered paper hole through the paper and cellophane, even if intact?

jmoran19

<< <i>I haven't seen very many racks that old in person, but shouldn't the header piece have the four-quartered paper hole through the paper and cellophane, even if intact? >>



You are correct sir!

grote15

The same seller of the fake 1968 rack also sold a fake 1975 rack last weekend. Looks like someone invested in a cello crimper, LOL..

Fake 1975 baseball rack

diamondman

is it possible the seller of the 68 rack and the 75 is unaware of this. I mean 12 years on Ebay 1 neg and 4 neutrals out of 16,000+ positives and DSR's of 4.9 4.9 4.9 and 4.8.

I think with those types of numbers, maybe he does not realize something is wrong with these racks/ maybe took them on consignment?

DeutscherGeist

If this is a dealer that takes these packs on consignment, then a polite email from one of us alerting him should be welcomed. Anyone try it? Let us see how he responds. Also, keep in mind that most customers will not know if something was resealed or not--it takes a well versed person to figure things out.

grote15

Ebay seller "tbine" appears to be the latest of the resealers...started off with late 70s packs and after a few sales has moved on to higher-valued packs. If you look at his buying history, he is actually using the same ID to buy near-worthless non-sports wax boxes to get the gum for these packs!