76 Baseball Unopened Wax in PSA

indiana9495

Is this a low pop pack? I can't seem to find any single packs anywhere. I looked on BBCE and eBay for months. BBCE has a wax tray listed, but no single packs.

41GoudeyGuy

Just using the PSA pop reports as a guide this does appear to be a more challenging pack.

1975 Topps Mini PSA has graded 220
1975 Topps Regular PSA has graded 75
1976 Topps Wax PSA has graded 18
1977 Topps Wax PSA has graded 24


Then again, PSA has not graded huge numbers of most packs at this point. Especially late 1970's packs. So, I'd use your experience as a gauge as well.

Griffins

'76 is not tough- the only pack that could be considered tougher than the others in the '70's is '71, and even that isn't that tough.
After that '75 regular was a bit tougher than the rest, but only incrementally so.

IMO, the toughest regular topps packs in order

'56 absolutely brutal
'58 I'm betting less than a dozen legit exist- probably much less than that
'59
'52 is expensive, but they come up. '55's come up but they all are water damaged from the Paris, Tenn find. The trick is getting one that has some eye appeal.


Of packs in the '60's, I had the toughest time with '61

WinPitcher

So basically it is low pop because not many have been sent in?

Steve

41GoudeyGuy

<< <i>'76 is not tough- the only pack that could be considered tougher than the others in the '70's is '71, and even that isn't that tough.
After that '75 regular was a bit tougher than the rest, but only incrementally so.

IMO, the toughest regular topps packs in order

'56 absolutely brutal
'58 I'm betting less than a dozen legit exist- probably much less than that
'59
'52 is expensive, but they come up. '55's come up but they all are water damaged from the Paris, Tenn find. The trick is getting one that has some eye appeal.


Of packs in the '60's, I had the toughest time with '61 >>



Anthony,

How about a 1941 Goudey pack? Any idea on scarcity of that one? I had always hard that 1953's were really tough but apparently not? In relative terms though all 1950's will be tougher than 1970's.

Brian

EchoCanyon

My motherload of 76 baseball, plus some other packs.

ga5150

I see some '78's peeking out at me from the far right side of that picture!

Rodney

leathtech

<< <i>My motherload of 76 baseball, plus some other packs.



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That's a nice looking stash... looks like those would grade very high - I could use one to upgrade the 1976 PSA 8 I have in my collection!

Griffins

Brian- Never seen a '41 pack, just wrappers. Never seen any Goudey baseball pack other than '33. I've got a Sport Kings pack.
Given how tough '41's are, I'd be really surprised if one exists.


Steve- yes, I think they just haven't been graded by PSA. Other than Steve's inventory I'm still not seeing a lot of packs graded by PSA out there. I think a lot of the ones that were graded were done previously,starting in '04 when GAI started out.

caramelcollector

<< <i>'76 is not tough- the only pack that could be considered tougher than the others in the '70's is '71, and even that isn't that tough.
After that '75 regular was a bit tougher than the rest, but only incrementally so.

IMO, the toughest regular topps packs in order

'56 absolutely brutal
'58 I'm betting less than a dozen legit exist- probably much less than that
'59
'52 is expensive, but they come up. '55's come up but they all are water damaged from the Paris, Tenn find. The trick is getting one that has some eye appeal.


Of packs in the '60's, I had the toughest time with '61 >>



great info thanks!

have you busted those yourself?

Griffins

I never bust packs, unless they are new. I've busted lots of Heritage packs! Ripping open older and vintage packs is a losing proposition, better to buy the cards already graded.
Corner dings, wax stains, gum stains, centering, all can ruin the contents of a pack. Great way to turn a $2500 purchase into $125 worth of cards.

'53's and '54's aren't tough, there are boxes of them lying around!

BigRedMachine

<< <i>I've got a Sport Kings pack. >>

summerof68

I agree with Griffins in that '76 bb wax isn't tough. There is still tons of 1970's wax out there from all years including '71.

Just two weeks ago I had an hour long phone conversation with a person from Allentown, Pa who has an extensive vintage unopened collection that he purchased new back in the early 70's.

For example he has several boxes of '73 baseball (all series) wax and some '71 baseball wax trays--yes that's right--1971 baseball wax trays.

This person was curious as to their value but hasn't the courage nor desire to send them off in the mail for grading.

I'm quite confident there are many, many more people similar to him with extensive vintage unopened collections who are very much against placing them in the mail.

grote15

76 wax isn't "tough" by any means, but it is harder to find (holdered at least) than 1974, 75, or 77. I don't generally see too many holdered 1976 packs come up for sale in compatison to other years from the mid to late 1970s.

grote15

Just two weeks ago I had an hour long phone conversation with a person from Allentown, Pa who has an extensive vintage unopened collection that he purchased new back in the early 70's.

Too bad this guy lives in PA, LOL...all the scammers out of there have given any legit collectors a bad name through no fault of their own..

mrpeanut39

<< <i>'76 is not tough- the only pack that could be considered tougher than the others in the '70's is '71, and even that isn't that tough.
After that '75 regular was a bit tougher than the rest, but only incrementally so.

IMO, the toughest regular topps packs in order

'56 absolutely brutal
'58 I'm betting less than a dozen legit exist- probably much less than that
'59
'52 is expensive, but they come up. '55's come up but they all are water damaged from the Paris, Tenn find. The trick is getting one that has some eye appeal.


Of packs in the '60's, I had the toughest time with '61 >>



Very interesting information. Any theories as to why this is the case? Major finds in the other years? I'm kind of disheartened to see that. I've thought about getting a graded pack to go along with my 56 set. Looks like that's not going to happen.

Griffins

There have been finds of '51 Redback, '52, '53, '54 (canadian), and '55. '57's aren't tough, and there seems to be an abundance of '60 and '62 onward.
There was also a find of '33 ('34) Sport Kings.
Eventually the finds get absorbed, but they at least satisfy the most rabid collectors that grab them up.
'64 Standup penny packs were pretty scarce and commanded a decent price until Mark Theotikos of Mastro won a box off ebay, sold it in a Mastro auction, and then the winner flooded the market. The price dropped 2/3 and has pretty much bottomed out. This would be a good time to buy one, because I strongly suspect they can only go up from her. The downside is that it is easy to see who is in there, so there is little incentive to rip it, so the supply won't be diminishing like it would normally.

indiana9495

Thanks for all the great info in this thread. I'm just now starting a wax collection and have one each representing 72-85 (except the 76) slabbed. I know the further I go back, the more difficult and expensive the packs will get, but I didn't consider 76 to be all that special. That's why I posed the question. Good to know that if I'm patient I'll eventually get one. While I'm in the hunt for 76, I guess I'll keep going backwards.

EchoCanyon

Know what they're going for?
I have a few slabbed.

Gregg

indiana9495

Echo - I'm not sure what 76 BB wax go for. BBCE has a 75 PSA 8 for $95 and ungraded 77 wax for $25. Anyone have thoughts on value of 76 BB wax in PSA 7 or 8 (Echo - I'm just guessing that is the grade you have them in).

jmoran19

<< <i> some '71 baseball wax trays--yes that's right--1971 baseball wax trays.

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SWING!

rbdjr1

'71 & '76 OPC Baseball wax are pretty tough

(maybe because nobody wants them?)

rd