Mr. Hall was acting like a seagull manager when he made that statement about Peace Dollars. Seems the graders are making a different call then he would. Maybe a good thing.
There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
Here are the pics so you dont have to go through all of the links. The coin looks most like the slab pics I took. The raw pictures have a lot of light on them so they look much brighter. Finally, the Truview makes the coin look darker. They pegged the reverse but the obv. they took sucks... Called PCGS to maybe retake it... nope, they need another $20... o well..
Good for you got one in ther. I think a lot of toned coins are getting push back just because and a lot are not being sent in just because. No one wants to waste $$$.
Well, PCGS disagreed with the opinion that I voiced in both the previous threads about the coin. The TrueView images make the color look markedly different than your images, which do you believe more accurate?
i doubt that the pictures were done in such a way as to deceive anyone, they just look a bit better when done by a better photographer. even though at least one member correctly graded the coin as AU55 this is yet another example proving that grading coins from online pictures isn't a high-probability excercise(yet we continue to try).
Well, what I see is a VERY common date peace dollar with LOTS , and I mean LOTS of hits, nicks, scratches and gouges. The "toning' on the coin ads nothing to it's value, because it's like a slick paint job on a car full of dents . The coins CONDITION matters First and Foremost. Toning is ALWAYS secondary . In this case , it's pretty much a "Bullion" coin with a real street value of approx $ 18 .That's my brutal but honest assesment .
<< <i>I think your thread title is extremely inaccurate, as you neglected to provide 80+ years of the coin's journey/history.
Edited to add: As is, even if not intended as such, this thread looks like spam. You could easily provide images without including the BST link. >>
FWIW, Mark... did you find that you used to annoy your teachers back in the day?
...and BTW... when you click on the link... recheck the forum those pics are on... NOT the BST...
This has been a TEST of the "is it possible to even question Mark Feld in a friendly manner without bringing out the wrath of the "Circle of Trust" gang... (not to offend but I had heard some rumors... )
Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free
<< <i>Well, what I see is a VERY common date peace dollar with LOTS , and I mean LOTS of hits, nicks, scratches and gouges. The "toning' on the coin ads nothing to it's value, because it's like a slick paint job on a car full of dents . The coins CONDITION matters First and Foremost. Toning is ALWAYS secondary . In this case , it's pretty much a "Bullion" coin with a real street value of approx $ 18 .That's my brutal but honest assesment .
Lewis >>
IMHO, the "street value" of coins such as this depend on what street you're on. Walk that one into a show and try to sell it to a dealer, and you're right, it's bullion. But, a well worded auction with good photos is another street altogether and could reap some nice profits on such a coin.
I wouldn't pay a large premium for it, but we've all seen some of the ridiculous prices some of these bring. Just the fact that a "rainbow toned Peace dollar" made it into a Graded PCGS slab, puts it into the scarce category and for some collectors, that's all it takes.
<< <i>I think your thread title is extremely inaccurate, as you neglected to provide 80+ years of the coin's journey/history.
Edited to add: As is, even if not intended as such, this thread looks like spam. You could easily provide images without including the BST link. >>
FWIW, Mark... did you find that you used to annoy your teachers back in the day?
...and BTW... when you click on the link... recheck the forum those pics are on... NOT the BST...
This has been a TEST of the "is it possible to even question Mark Feld in a friendly manner without bringing out the wrath of the "Circle of Trust" gang... (not to offend but I had heard some rumors... ) >>
Yes, I used to annoy some of my teachers, mostly intentionally.
The original link was most assuredly, to a BST listing, but it was edited after a number of posters cried "spam".
I think the rumors you heard were false, but feel free to test them out as often as you wish. I love a good debate and/or joking around, as long as it is civil.
Good to finally be able to talk to you after having read a number of your posts.
<< <i>Well, what I see is a VERY common date peace dollar with LOTS , and I mean LOTS of hits, nicks, scratches and gouges. The "toning' on the coin ads nothing to it's value, because it's like a slick paint job on a car full of dents . The coins CONDITION matters First and Foremost. Toning is ALWAYS secondary . In this case , it's pretty much a "Bullion" coin with a real street value of approx $ 18 .That's my brutal but honest assesment .
Lewis >>
I am with BigMoneyLewis on this one(by the way that is the coolest user name on the board) although I pay extra for plastic I put the value at 25$. That being said, I would even go on to say that ONE peace dollar looks market ok and I am sure that there are willing buyers at the $100+ level, I just wish those poor tone heads good luck when it comes time to sell back to a dealer.
Good for you, Peaceman. You took a chance and won...maybe proved a point.
Personally, I wouldn't have bothered. It's a beat-up $25 coin that perhaps some loonie will buy for $50 because of the color. With orig cost, shipping, insurance(?), grading fee and trueview was it worth it? Maybe...just for the fun. Lance.
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Edited to add: As is, even if not intended as such, this thread looks like spam. You could easily provide images without including the BST link.
-Paul
<< <i>From this Ebay purchase to.....
To this Poll
To the result, now politically correct, oops. lol >>
Well, that is truely interesting.....
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
So much for blanket statements about certain coin series.
Oh, and congrats on the grade/slab. I believe your $16+grading fees has turned into a nice investment.
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"The great thing about standards is, there are so many different ones to choose from!" Jim Mechan
Hoard the keys.
Maybe the graders don't peruse the forum and missed that post.
Killer Coin, Peaceman
i doubt that the pictures were done in such a way as to deceive anyone, they just look a bit better when done by a better photographer. even though at least one member correctly graded the coin as AU55 this is yet another example proving that grading coins from online pictures isn't a high-probability excercise(yet we continue to try).
FWIW, good for you Peaceman.
WOWZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's a really good example of the pot calling the kettle black!!!!
I see all the hits, but was thinking in the lines of MS60
of hits, nicks, scratches and gouges. The "toning' on the coin ads nothing to it's value,
because it's like a slick paint job on a car full of dents . The coins CONDITION matters
First and Foremost. Toning is ALWAYS secondary . In this case , it's pretty much a "Bullion" coin
with a real street value of approx $ 18 .That's my brutal but honest assesment .
Lewis
<< <i>I think your thread title is extremely inaccurate, as you neglected to provide 80+ years of the coin's journey/history.
Edited to add: As is, even if not intended as such, this thread looks like spam. You could easily provide images without including the BST link. >>
FWIW, Mark... did you find that you used to annoy your teachers back in the day?
...and BTW... when you click on the link... recheck the forum those pics are on... NOT the BST...
This has been a TEST of the "is it possible to even question Mark Feld in a friendly manner without bringing out the wrath of the "Circle of Trust" gang...
<< <i>Well, what I see is a VERY common date peace dollar with LOTS , and I mean LOTS
of hits, nicks, scratches and gouges. The "toning' on the coin ads nothing to it's value,
because it's like a slick paint job on a car full of dents . The coins CONDITION matters
First and Foremost. Toning is ALWAYS secondary . In this case , it's pretty much a "Bullion" coin
with a real street value of approx $ 18 .That's my brutal but honest assesment .
Lewis >>
IMHO, the "street value" of coins such as this depend on what street you're on. Walk that one into a show and try to sell it to a dealer, and you're right, it's bullion. But, a well worded auction with good photos is another street altogether and could reap some nice profits on such a coin.
I wouldn't pay a large premium for it, but we've all seen some of the ridiculous prices some of these bring. Just the fact that a "rainbow toned Peace dollar" made it into a Graded PCGS slab, puts it into the scarce category and for some collectors, that's all it takes.
<< <i>
<< <i>I think your thread title is extremely inaccurate, as you neglected to provide 80+ years of the coin's journey/history.
Edited to add: As is, even if not intended as such, this thread looks like spam. You could easily provide images without including the BST link. >>
FWIW, Mark... did you find that you used to annoy your teachers back in the day?
...and BTW... when you click on the link... recheck the forum those pics are on... NOT the BST...
This has been a TEST of the "is it possible to even question Mark Feld in a friendly manner without bringing out the wrath of the "Circle of Trust" gang...
Yes, I used to annoy some of my teachers, mostly intentionally.
The original link was most assuredly, to a BST listing, but it was edited after a number of posters cried "spam".
I think the rumors you heard were false, but feel free to test them out as often as you wish. I love a good debate and/or joking around, as long as it is civil.
Good to finally be able to talk to you after having read a number of your posts.
<< <i>Well, what I see is a VERY common date peace dollar with LOTS , and I mean LOTS
of hits, nicks, scratches and gouges. The "toning' on the coin ads nothing to it's value,
because it's like a slick paint job on a car full of dents . The coins CONDITION matters
First and Foremost. Toning is ALWAYS secondary . In this case , it's pretty much a "Bullion" coin
with a real street value of approx $ 18 .That's my brutal but honest assesment .
Lewis >>
I am with BigMoneyLewis on this one(by the way that is the coolest user name on the board) although I pay extra for plastic I put the value at 25$. That being said, I would even go on to say that ONE peace dollar looks market ok and I am sure that there are willing buyers at the $100+ level, I just wish those poor tone heads good luck when it comes time to sell back to a dealer.
<< <i>IMHO, the "street value" of coins such as this depend on what street you're on. >>
Personally, I wouldn't have bothered. It's a beat-up $25 coin that perhaps some loonie will buy for $50 because of the color. With orig cost, shipping, insurance(?), grading fee and trueview was it worth it? Maybe...just for the fun.
Lance.
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