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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yesssss I bet he is gonna finally use my suggestion of having adult swim cartoon characters as logos for all new modern crap holders! image


    Seriously, great job! I may just buy some CU stock today. image >>



    Now THAT is a good idea!
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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does "something revolutionary about grading" equate with me paying more for this service?
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  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the post. Sounds exciting. For all the information you've described, $10/month sounds like a reasonable price.
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Regardless of the message it’s always best to hear it from the source. Thank you.

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  • << <i>...(and I'm not talking about the grading guarantee announcement we're making tomorrow).
    HRH >>



    Can someone point me to the grading guarantee announcement? Or has it not been announced at this time yet?
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    Since CAC threads get nuked all the time it must be time for a fractional grading scale, ie. half-point grading increments. That's my two cent bet.

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  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    I do hope that the near future includes the grading of CWTs, HTTs, SCDs and Conder tokens!
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Since CAC threads get nuked all the time it must be time for a fractional grading scale, ie. half-point grading increments. That's my two cent bet. >>



    HRH did rule out a 100-point scale already, but since a half-point scale would effectively equate to a 140-point scale, I guess that's still fair game.

    Still waiting for info on the grading guarantee too, any links?
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Perhaps somehow there should be a move toward technical grading, rather than market grading (or have the technical grade available in addition to the market grade).

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    OK, now I will hold off from submitting coins till the announcment next year. I had a batch ready to go before my membership expires this month.

    Can someone sticky this to the top until the big announcement next year?
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    The thought of laser imprinting of some sort also seems a possibility. Microchips are too costly and difficult to implement. But a laser inscription inside a holder before it's sealed....??

    I'm going to be collecting dust after January, 7, 2010. I'm just sitting in the peanut gallery. image
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A device that detects AT'd coins?
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The thought of laser imprinting of some sort also seems a possibility. Microchips are too costly and difficult to implement. But a laser inscription inside a holder before it's sealed....??

    I'm going to be collecting dust after January, 7, 2010. I'm just sitting in the peanut gallery. image >>



    I can't help but beleive you will be back and building a new Syrup variant.
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The thought of laser imprinting of some sort also seems a possibility. Microchips are too costly and difficult to implement. But a laser inscription inside a holder before it's sealed....??

    I'm going to be collecting dust after January, 7, 2010. I'm just sitting in the peanut gallery. image >>



    I can't help but beleive you will be back and building a new Syrup variant. >>



    Well you're better off believing in Bigfoot because it ain't gonna happen unless I win the lottery.

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>The thought of laser imprinting of some sort also seems a possibility. Microchips are too costly and difficult to implement. But a laser inscription inside a holder before it's sealed....??

    I'm going to be collecting dust after January, 7, 2010. I'm just sitting in the peanut gallery. image >>



    I can't help but beleive you will be back and building a new Syrup variant. >>



    Well you're better off believing in Bigfoot because it ain't gonna happen unless I win the lottery.

    Do you have any idea what "half of everything" entails? No liquidity. Now back to the "dreamy" OT.....image >>



    How about a variant that inlcudes more affordable eye candy? Does not have to be Saints. Could be as simple as a nice Walker set in rattlers.


  • << <i>It is my personal goal to get all of the coin information in my brain onto PCGS CoinFacts before I die...I'm 62 years old and hope to be here another 20 years, but you never know. >>


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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    Will mongers. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftt! image
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would be interesting if PCGS did a OBV/REV grading on the holder...and then could do a cumulative grade (or not).

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  • kruegerkrueger Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭


    Outstanding!! This great for the hobby! Thank you for your forward thinking--

    Question: Are you ever going to unclude the U.S. Philippine (U.S. adminitration series) in coinfacts and the priceguide?
    I spoke to Ron Guth at the L.A. ANA and he said he couldn't see why not since it is a U.S. series, although somewhat forgotten or unawares.

    Krueger


  • << <i>It is my personal goal to get all of the coin information in my brain onto PCGS CoinFacts before I die...I'm 62 years old and hope to be here another 20 years, but you never know.
    HRH >>



    What? HRH is 62 years old? That's impossible. Back in 1996 when I first started collecting, he was only 49 years old.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Perhaps somehow there should be a move toward technical grading, rather than market grading (or have the technical grade available in addition to the market grade). >>



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  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would be cool if PCGS took detailed photos of every coin so you could type in the serial number on a slab that you buy, and it would show the coin, and give the date it was graded. Going forward, it would certainly put the damper on counterfeit coins and slabs....and thnk of the money they could make from people resubmitting coins in older slabs. Cha-ching!!! I think whatever innovations HRH and PCGS are about to unveil will include something to thwart counterfeiters. They seem to be the biggest threat to the hobby today.

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not be suprised to see them add subgrades,such as + or -.
    Or even abbreviate IE, L ,M,H.Many years ago I had asked them why
    they diden't do this.Never know,stranger things have happened.
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would be interesting if PCGS did a OBV/REV grading on the holder >>



    I am hard pressed to think of anything less interesting than that.
  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Would be interesting if PCGS did a OBV/REV grading on the holder >>



    I am hard pressed to think of anything less interesting than that. >>



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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you have any idea what "half of everything" entails? No liquidity. Now back to the "dreamy" OT.....image >>



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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Man, what a tease!

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,816 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Man, what a tease!

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    yeah, has there been any other news from PCGS other then them trashing the copper color guarantee??? i can't wait to see what else is in store image
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭


    from a December 2006 COINAge article/interview with David Hall:

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    far too many replies to check each one, but i wonder if the day will come when the date a coin was graded will be known from the "Cert #" link??
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>far too many replies to check each one, but i wonder if the day will come when the date a coin was graded will be known from the "Cert #" link?? >>



    What difference does the date of grading make. PCGS claims their grading standards have been consistent from the beginning. Don't you believe them?imageimage

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  • LostSislerLostSisler Posts: 521 ✭✭✭
    Going to make a holder that levitates or delivers itself to another dealer on the convention floor? WooHoo! lol
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CU message boards may get a little monetary adjustment.Which may include coinfacts
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now, you really have me wondering if I should put some of my coins in for grading now, or wait?????

    What's going to be so good about it? Or, will it maybe be controversial so I would want my coins in now rather than later?

    Will a new holder come with it? >>




    Somehow I missed this thread, but those are my EXACT same questions.
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  • SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭
    We've seen one of the big changes over the last few days. What's next?image
  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    I knew I would eventually join CoinFacts and just did, and am glad I did. I just took a first look at the sight after joining.

    My specialty is barber halves and I am impressed with what is already there. I can see it is still a work in progress and I have lots of information I could add, but I don't see any specific way to provide such input (with the likes of David Akers and Q David Bowers there may be little that I would add of value anyway). I look forward to seeing the information and images expanding. The 1892-O micro O is illustrated, but no separate listing for it is present with population data or pricing (at least that I could find). I suspect that it will come eventually. The highest graded micro O is the PCGS MS 68 Eliasberg example owned by Dale Friend, the next best is the PCGS MS 67 from the James Stack collection, there are two MS 65's including the one owned by Steve Duckor and the other by me (mine is from Jascha Heifitz/Silbermunzen) and there are multiple MS 63 examples; the MS 64 on the population report may or may not be a coin that eventually was upgraded. I think that for barber halves that getting the entire sets of Dr. Duckor and me will be a great opportunity to provide many top-end coin images to the database. I suspect that this will be a tactic utilized by PCGS for many series, when they can get to it.

    Again, PCGS has done a great job with Coin Facts and I will use it to enhance my enjoyment of this fine hobby.
    Dr. Pete
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  • Anything new on this front?
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anything new on this front? >>



    Only thing I can think of is the new iPhone app. Still waiting for the big news. Hoping for a new slab myself.

  • << Now, you really have me wondering if I should put some of my coins in for grading now, or wait?????

    What's going to be so good about it? Or, will it maybe be controversial so I would want my coins in now rather than later?

    Will a new holder come with it? >>

    << Now, you really have me wondering if I should put some of my coins in for grading now, or wait?????

    Send them in now ......... it's taking so long for them to grade that it doesn't matter. Your coins won't be graded til the changes and they'll get the new slabs anyway, but you'll be paying the current fees.

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