What is the oldest cards of a living player?

41GoudeyGuy

I know that Yogi Berra and Stan Musial are still alive from the 1948 Bowman set. Does anybody know what cards exist for living players from before these?

Elemenopeo

I'm thinking there may be someone from the '33 Goudey set still around, but Bob Feller was on a '36 Goudey.

daddymc

1938 Goudey Heads-Up #288 Bob Feller Rookie Card

daddymc

<< <i>I'm thinking there may be someone from the '33 Goudey set still around, but Bob Feller was on a '36 Goudey. >>



Hmmm, 1936 Goudey Wide Pen Bob Feller. I didn't know about that one until now. Thanks.

SDSportsFan

This probably is not a complete list, but here are a few that I came up with:

1935 Batter Up - Phil Cavarretta
1938 Goudey - Bob Feller and Bobby Doerr
1939 Play Ball - Eddie Joost and Bobby Doerr
1940 Play Ball - Bobby Doerr
1941 Double Play - Benny McCoy, Bob Feller, Bobby Doerr and Al Brancato
1941 Play Ball - Al Brancato and Bobby Doerr


Steve

VitoCo1972

Ralph Kercheval is alive from the National Chicle football set - he's 98.

SDSportsFan

Before he died September 13th of this year, Lonny Frey was the last remaining player to appear in the 1934 Goudey set. Everyone in the 1933 Goudey set has passed away.


Steve

WinPitcher

If Feller is not in the 36 set I believe he is in the 37 OPC set.


Steve

Pigs

Monte Irvin born in 1919, a year younger than Feller. I'm thinking being in the Negro Leagues his cards were later than some of the guys his age.

PoppaJ

Check out this LIST of guys 90-100 years old!

66 of them still kickin'

bobsbbcards

Interesting question. Here are a few in order of age of player.

1951 Bowman Connie Marrero (98 years, 113 days)
1953 Topps Mike Sandlock (94 years, 46 days)
1941 Double Play Bennie McCoy (94 years, 23 days)
1933-36 Zeenut Eddie Joost (93 years, 180 days)
1936 S & S Game Phil Cavaretta (93 years, 136 days)
1939 Playball Buddy Lewis (93 years, 114 days)
1941 Double Play Danny Litwhiler (93 years, 93 days)
1947 Tip Top Bread Virgil Trucks (92 years, 220 days)
1947 Tip Top Bread Bobby Bragan (92 years, 33 days)
1941 Cardinals Team Issue Marty Marion (92 years, 1 day)
1936 Goudey Premium Wide Pens Bobby Doerr (91 years, 239 days)
1952 Mothers Cookies Chuck Stevens (91 years, 145 days)
1951 Bowman Ken Holcombe (91 years, 101 days)
1936 Goudey Premium Wide Pens Bob Feller (91 years, 29 days)

SDSportsFan

Here's a link to the list of oldest living baseball players.


Steve

WinPitcher

Ace Parker also played pro football and I think is in it's HOF.


The oldest ex player to ever live (or lived the longest is Chet Hoff) 107.

He was born and raised about 4 blocks from my house, he is buried in the cemetery

behind my house, Dale Cemetery.


Steve

fkw

The Feller is really from 1937

It is the R314C Canadian Creamy Wide Pen (NOT made by Goudey, it was made by the World Wide Gum Co. ....... sometimes called "Canadian Goudey's")

The set is sometimes called by other names.... R314 "type 4" I believe.

The whole group of R314's (5 different sets) used to be called 1936..... but proof shows the R314C's are from 1937 (Bobby Doerr among others)

Nathaniel1960

I would like to put together a timeline of players (with the fewest number of players) that played at that same time as their predecessor and successor.

For example, Nolan Ryan played from 66 to 93. So I select an active player since 93....someone like Griffey Jr. And someone who had a long career retiring around 66, I'll pick Whitey Ford.

So you've got 1950 - 1967 Ford, 1967 - 1993 Ryan, 1993 - Present Griffey Jr. That's only three players spanning 60 years.

So my question, what is the perfect succession of players which would minimize the number necessary? And what year should we begin with?

Nathaniel1960

<< <i>Before he died September 13th of this year, Lonny Frey was the last remaining player to appear in the 1934 Goudey set. Everyone in the 1933 Goudey set has passed away.


Steve >>



That is simply remarkable. This would make for a great PSA/DNA Article.

41GoudeyGuy

Replace Whitey Ford with Yogi Berra and you have a full run back to 1948.

Never mind. I just realized Yogi doesn't have a 1966 card.

SDSportsFan

<< <i>Replace Whitey Ford with Yogi Berra and you have a full run back to 1948.

Never mind. I just realized Yogi doesn't have a 1966 card. >>




Actually, if you replace Nolan Ryan with Tommy John, and then replace Ford with Berra, you get back to 1948.

Yogi Berra - 1948 Bowman to 1964 Topps

Tommy John - 1964 Topps to 1989 Topps/Upper Deck

Ken Griffey Jr - 1989 Topps/Upper Deck to the present

You could also substitute Warren Spahn for Berra and get the same result.


Steve

SDSportsFan

Here's a timeline going back to the Old Judge set in 1887:

Hugh Duffy - N172 to T206

Jack Quinn - T206 to 1933 Goudey

Bill Dickey/Billy Herman/Leo Durocher - 1933 Goudey to 1952 Topps

Mickey Mantle - 1952 Topps - 1969 Topps

Nolan Ryan 1969 Topps - 1993 Topps

Derek Jeter - 1993 Topps to present


Steve

41GoudeyGuy

You could also go

1948-1965 Yogi Berra
1963-1989 Pete Rose
1989-Present Ken Griffey Jr.

scooter729

Minnie Minoso would be a good one to use for this, if you count his 1 at-bat that he had in 1980. He single-handedly covers you from 1949 - 1980 in that case.

41GoudeyGuy

He played over that span but he didn't have cards over that span...

Nathaniel1960

Some great posts, Tommy John is a great link, as is Rose.

The run all the way back to the beginning is awesome!!

Until he retired, Julio Franco would have been a good one. From 1983 until 2007 I believe. You could put Yaz behind him, for 60-83. And you would oh so close to Pee Wee Reese 1941 Play Ball.

Fun game, huh?

Nathaniel1960

<< <i>He played over that span but he didn't have cards over that span... >>



1977 Record Breaker.....but I don't think Minoso should be included.

SDSportsFan

<< <i>Some great posts, Tommy John is a great link, as is Rose.

The run all the way back to the beginning is awesome!!

Until he retired, Julio Franco would have been a good one. From 1983 until 2007 I believe. You could put Yaz behind him, for 60-83. And you would oh so close to Pee Wee Reese 1941 Play Ball.

Fun game, huh? >>



Here's another one:

Hugh Duffy - N172 - T206

Jack Quinn - T206 to 1933 Goudey

Bill Dickey 1933 Goudey to 1941 Play Ball

Pee Wee Reese 1941 Play Ball to 1958 Topps

Orlando Cepeda 1958 Topps to 1974 Topps

Dave Winfield 1974 Topps to 1995 Topps

Derek Jeter 1995 Topps to present


Steve

fkw

If you want all HOFers, Use Tris Speaker instead of Quinn

Sabrgeek

I like the idea of using Quinn better since he was an active player in both sets.

Speaker had retired by 33 and was a manager in the minors IIRC.

Rich

fkw

I knew that about Speaker but I didnt think it mattered since Duffy retired 3 years before T206

:edited to fix years

PS Clark Griffith may be better than Duffy, he actually pitched til 1914, but his N172 was in the minors.

I wish I had my books with me, very cool idea

41GoudeyGuy

I think the better trick would be to find guys who played on the same team, like the Red Sox or the Yankees

Ted Williams
Carl Yastrzemski
Jim Rice
Dwight Evans
...

Ruth
Dimaggio
Mantle
...

SDSportsFan

Yankees:

Willie Keeler - 1903 to 1909 (1903 was their first year)

Birdie Cree & Jack Warhop - 1908 to 1915

Wally Pipp - 1915 to 1925

Lou Gehrig - 1923 to 1939

Joe DiMaggio - 1936 to 1951

Whitey Ford - 1950 to 1967

Bobby Murcer 1965 - 1983

Don Mattingly 1982 to 1995

Derek Jeter - 1995 to present


Steve

41GoudeyGuy

I like the Pipp to Gehrig transition.

WinPitcher

What about Nick Altrock?

I think he played in 5 decades too, not sure if he has cards in all of them, he does have one in the 60 Fleer set.



Steve