Would you cross a NGC Star to a PCGS holder?Would you cross a NGC Star to a PCGS holder?

seateddime

Would you cross a NGC Star to a PCGS holder?

Is there any reason why or why not?

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commoncents05

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yellowkid

I wouldn't. The coin should carry the day, but the star can't hurt, can only help.

BAJJERFAN

Since you asked twice, I'd say yes, no.

PCcoins

Yes, I would. Just for personal reasons (to match all the other pcgs coins in the set)

And I tried it to, but with no luck

coinguy1

It would depend on the particular coin in question. Some coins have large PCGS price premiums which would likely trump the NGC star. Many other coins do not.

Broadstruck

<< <i>It would depend on the particular coin in question. Some coins have large PCGS price premiums which would likely trump the NGC star. Many other coins do not. >>

bushmaster8

I've done it...to fill out a PQ PCGS set... no regrets.

golfer72

The NGC star is meaningless. Eye appeal is subjective. Disregard the star.

sinin1

I would if I wanted it in my PCGS registry set.I would if I wanted it in my PCGS registry set.


I would ask why I bought it in the first place and follow my plan!I would ask why I bought it in the first place and follow my plan!

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golfer72

Please tell me how something that is completely subjective can have any meaning at all. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

TwoSides2aCoin

I prefer coins to labels or plastic so it would depend on the coin, which should cross if it's got the star.

coinguy1

<< <i>Please tell me how something that is completely subjective can have any meaning at all. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. >>

I don't buy your premise that eye-appeal is completely subjective. If that were the case, there wouldn't be agreements to the extent that there are, regarding what constitutes a beautiful (or ugly) coin. Yes, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but there is no doubt that many of us have eyes for the look of certain coins over others.

mrearlygold

I'm building a multi-million dollar early gold collection and 95% are in NGC holders. I've spent a couple million dollars just in the past 6 months. There's a couple coins in PCGS holders that wouldn't cross to NGC. The ONLY reason I looked to cross them by the way is they are all being re-holdered with a name on the holder, the American Independence Collection.

Get rid of the Kooaid and Buy the coin, not the holder. If you don't know what that means or exactly how to implement it, be prepared for some significant bumps along the way to wherever it is you are trying to get to in coins.

tbarreca

seateddime, I was amused that you asked this question because you know as much about the TPG game as just about anyone, I suspect.

That much having been said, as a relative newbie on this point, do you really expect to get objective answers on this forum? What answers would the same question generate if you asked it across the street?

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golfer72

After looking at many NGC coins I see no consistency at all with what gets the star and what does not. That tells me that the coins that I feel have nice eye appeal are not the ones the grader that day feels has nice eye appeal. That by its nature is subjective. I also feel that PCGS is to be commended for not adopting a similar concept to the NGC star. I would like to think it is because they agree the concept is not valid.

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OnlyGoldIsMoney

Yes. I would cross the coin since all my other coins are in PCGS holders.

golfer72

I guess we can agree to disagree Realone.

littlebear

<< <i>Get rid of the Kooaid and Buy the coin, not the holder. If you don't know what that means or exactly how to implement it, be prepared for some significant bumps along the way to wherever it is you are trying to get to in coins. >>



Well said. I thought numismatics was about COINS and not plastic. There are recognized inconsistencies in both services, but it is irrelevant if you are buying and collecting the coin. When it comes time to sell, that would be the time to decide which service's plastic would maximize the financial return for your particular series. Since things have, and always will, change, the point of selling is the optimum time to make the decision.

And before the bashers get started, most of my collection is pretty much evenly spread between PCGS and NGC. That is just the way it worked out when I bought coins that I LIKED. I have also submitted to both services. To bash one service over the other in any forum is ridiculous. Both services deserve respect for their efforts over the years. You are free to have whatever holder you like (if any at all). You are entitled to select whichever you like, if that even enters into your purchasing/slabbing decision. By the same token, you are entitled to collect whatever series you like in whatever grade you like. Collect whatever YOU LIKE in whatever grade or holder you like, and do so because it makes you happy. That is the essence of numismatics.

Larry L.

seateddime

I have a far better NGC set than PCGS but did recently cross over many coins ( and many did not cross) but did not send any of my star coins as the have a huge point advantage on the otherside.

I do see in modern coins where one side is a DCAM and the other not even a CAM, they seem to get the star. I don't know if I agree with that.

Justacommeman

<< <i>After looking at many NGC coins I see no consistency at all with what gets the star and what does not. That tells me that the coins that I feel have nice eye appeal are not the ones the grader that day feels has nice eye appeal. That by its nature is subjective. I also feel that PCGS is to be commended for not adopting a similar concept to the NGC star. I would like to think it is because they agree the concept is not valid. >>


Not true and you don't have all the facts. It is also of note that Star Designations are applied only with the unanimous consent of NGC's graders. If there is a single objection to a particular coin receiving a Star Designation upon quality control inspection, it loses the star.
Some collector's covet NGC stars for right or wrong so there is a premium placed on them in SOME instances. Mark pointed out where it still may be better to cross financially.

PCGS is a superior marketer to NGC, however the star program is one area where NGC scooped them bigtime imo. I would like to think that it would be embarrassing to PCGS to copy a star type program and not that they think the concept is invalid. MJ

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SUMORADA

PCGS is a superior marketer to NGC, however the star program is one area where NGC scooped them bigtime imo. I would like to think that it would be embarrassing to PCGS to copy a star type program and not that they think the concept is invalid. MJ

JCMhouston

Nope.

PerryHall

No. In fact, I wouldn't cross a non-star NGC to PCGS.