It's in a PCGS MS66 slab. Those deep hits look nasty.
Personally, I'm in the 63 crowd myself >>
I'm not so sure he (or you) did - I would bet that at least some of those "deep hits" are mint made depressions and not man-made flaws. >>
If this is the case, how would one go about determining this? Is there certain characteristics of the coin flaws that would separate the two? Just curious.
Interesting. Even if they are mint-made depressions, I view them as a negative to eye appeal. Maybe they get a mulligan when it comes to technical grade but if I was spending 66 money on a '35-S, I would pass.
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It's in a PCGS MS66 slab. Those deep hits look nasty.
Personally, I'm in the 63 crowd myself >>
I'm not so sure he (or you) did - I would bet that at least some of those "deep hits" are mint made depressions and not man-made flaws. >>
If this is the case, how would one go about determining this? Is there certain characteristics of the coin flaws that would separate the two? Just curious. >>
You can look for clues, such as how rough or smooth the depressions are, how well they blend in with the rest of the surfaces, whether those areas are extra shiny or not, whether they are the same color as the surrounding area, etc.
<< <i>Sorry. That aint no 66. Buy the coin not the label. No more than 63 >>
Sorry, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the expert graders who have actually seen the coin in person, over our opinions, based on images.
It looks like a David Lawrence photo -- in fact, I think I saw this coin on their website. I have purchased a few coins from them without problems, but have not found their photos to be particularly accurate. I tend to agree with Mark that the graders likely saw something quite different than what we are looking at here.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Most on this forum seem to undergrade by 2 to 3 grades when viewing pictures. MJ
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I'm sorry, but if that image is an accurate representation of the actual coin then the coin is an overgraded dog. If the photo is not an accurate representation then the photographer is doing a disservice to his or her emplyer.
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<< <i>You can look for clues, such as how rough or smooth the depressions are, how well they blend in with the rest of the surfaces, whether those areas are extra shiny or not, whether they are the same color as the surrounding area, etc. >>
Makes sense. Thanks for the tips, never thought about it that way. Even so, this coin wouldn't be on my list if I was to purchase a 35-S.
<< <i>It looks like a David Lawrence photo -- in fact, I think I saw this coin on their website. I have purchased a few coins from them without problems, but have not found their photos to be particularly accurate. I tend to agree with Mark that the graders likely saw something quite different than what we are looking at here. >>
You are correct. Actually, I came across this coin doing my occasional browsing of Collectors Corner. Of course I only look at coins with images, and this one seemed odd to me. I truly wish it was a requirement to include pictures in listings, it would make that website so much better. I find it humorous when I see a coin selling for 12k without any images.
<< <i>..Makes sense. Thanks for the tips, never thought about it that way. Even so, this coin wouldn't be on my list if I was to purchase a 35-S... >>
You're welcome and it wouldn't be on my list either. Keep in mind, however, that just because we don't like a coin, doesn't mean that it's over-graded. And just because a coin is accurately graded, doesn't mean we have to like it.
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A little hint for any others that want to guess: The coin is mint state
It's in a PCGS MS66 slab. Those deep hits look nasty.
Personally, I'm in the 63 crowd myself
<< <i>Well, Barndog got it right.
It's in a PCGS MS66 slab. Those deep hits look nasty.
Personally, I'm in the 63 crowd myself >>
I'm not so sure he (or you) did - I would bet that at least some of those "deep hits" are mint made depressions and not man-made flaws.
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<< <i>Well, Barndog got it right.
It's in a PCGS MS66 slab. Those deep hits look nasty.
Personally, I'm in the 63 crowd myself >>
I'm not so sure he (or you) did - I would bet that at least some of those "deep hits" are mint made depressions and not man-made flaws. >>
If this is the case, how would one go about determining this? Is there certain characteristics of the coin flaws that would separate the two? Just curious.
Collector of Early 20th Century U.S. Coinage.
ANA Member R-3147111
<< <i>
<< <i>Well, Barndog got it right.
It's in a PCGS MS66 slab. Those deep hits look nasty.
Personally, I'm in the 63 crowd myself >>
I'm not so sure he (or you) did - I would bet that at least some of those "deep hits" are mint made depressions and not man-made flaws. >>
If this is the case, how would one go about determining this? Is there certain characteristics of the coin flaws that would separate the two? Just curious. >>
You can look for clues, such as how rough or smooth the depressions are, how well they blend in with the rest of the surfaces, whether those areas are extra shiny or not, whether they are the same color as the surrounding area, etc.
<< <i>Sorry. That aint no 66. Buy the coin not the label. No more than 63 >>
Sorry, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the expert graders who have actually seen the coin in person, over our opinions, based on images.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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ANA Member R-3147111
<< <i>Most on this forum seem to undergrade by 2 to 3 grades when viewing pictures. MJ >>
this.
everyone thought my Peace dollar was ms63-Ms64 and it came back MS66
<< <i>You can look for clues, such as how rough or smooth the depressions are, how well they blend in with the rest of the surfaces, whether those areas are extra shiny or not, whether they are the same color as the surrounding area, etc. >>
Makes sense. Thanks for the tips, never thought about it that way. Even so, this coin wouldn't be on my list if I was to purchase a 35-S.
<< <i>It looks like a David Lawrence photo -- in fact, I think I saw this coin on their website. I have purchased a few coins from them without problems, but have not found their photos to be particularly accurate. I tend to agree with Mark that the graders likely saw something quite different than what we are looking at here. >>
You are correct. Actually, I came across this coin doing my occasional browsing of Collectors Corner. Of course I only look at coins with images, and this one seemed odd to me. I truly wish it was a requirement to include pictures in listings, it would make that website so much better. I find it humorous when I see a coin selling for 12k without any images.
<< <i>..Makes sense. Thanks for the tips, never thought about it that way. Even so, this coin wouldn't be on my list if I was to purchase a 35-S...
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You're welcome and it wouldn't be on my list either. Keep in mind, however, that just because we don't like a coin, doesn't mean that it's over-graded. And just because a coin is accurately graded, doesn't mean we have to like it.