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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    Smallie.
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is one. It is also an S/S/S. Shag
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  • small, look for the thin flat part of the S
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162


    << <i>Large or Small S...


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    From lincolncentresource:

    The 1928 Small S and Large S

    Mintmarks have changed design many times during the Lincoln Cent Series. The most notable business strike mintmark changes occurred in 1928 and 1941. The most notable proof mintmark changes occurred in 1979 and 1981. All of these were S mintmark changes.

    The 1928 Large S has more defined serifs than the small S. The middle of the mintmark in the 1928 Large S is much thicker that the top and bottom.

    This variety is listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide as FS 1-013.6 or FS-01-1928S-501. It is also listed in the Red Book.

    Of the population of 17,266,000 1928 S cents made, it is estimated that between 2%-5% are Large S.


    David W. Lange, NGC Research Director on 9/1/2003:

    "Cherrypicking" is the term applied by collectors to the hunt for scarce and rare coins that can be purchased at the price of common items. My favorite cherrypick has long been the Large S mintmark varieties unique to 1928.


    "Cherrypicking" is the term applied by collectors to the hunt for scarce and rare coins that can be purchased at the price of common items. My favorite cherrypick has long been the Large S mintmark varieties unique to 1928. For reasons now lost to history, the U.S. Mint created a large and distinctively configured ‘S’ puncheon that was used only during the latter half of 1928 on just a very few dies sent to the San Francisco Mint. As a result of this experiment (if that’s what it was), a couple of rarities were created for that date.

    The normal ‘S’ mintmark for this period was the small, symmetrical letter puncheon introduced in 1917 and phased out during 1941-42 (these latter dates are transitional with larger mintmarks). During this long period, it had no rivals on the San Francisco Mint coinage, except in 1928. During that year both the usual Small S and the unique Large S were used on the dies for 1928-S cents, dimes, quarters and halves. Nickels and silver dollars of that date are known only with the Small S mintmark. Since the coining of dollars ceased early in 1928, this suggests that the Large S puncheon was not employed until later in the year.

    For the quarters and halves, the differential in rarity between Small S specimens and those having the Large S is not enough that a premium price is in order. While the Small S coins are clearly more common, perhaps one out of every ten pieces examined have the Large S. Thus, these coins may be found with a bit of searching. The other denominations having both mintmarks offer much greater opportunities for the dedicated cherrypicker. Since writing books on both the Lincoln cent and Mercury dime series, I’ve become well acquainted with just how rare the Large S varieties are for these coin types. In my books I was overly conservative regarding the rarity of Large S coins, as I hadn’t had enough time to mount a thorough search. I estimated that about one out of 30 1928-S cents feature the Large S mintmark, while my ratio for dimes was just one out of five.

    While the correct ratio for cents in circulated grades appears to be more like one out of 40, the rarity of mint state 1928 Large S cents is much greater still. Uncirculated examples are extremely difficult to locate and offer a real prize for the astute cherrypicker. My initial rarity estimate for the dimes was way off; probably no more than one out of 30 1928-S dimes will have the Large S mintmark. Fortunately, this same ratio seems to hold true for both circulated and mint state coins. While an uncirculated 1928 Large S dime is very scarce, it is somewhat easier to find than the similar cent.

    Though acknowledged with a footnote in the popular Red Book (A Guide Book of United States Coins, by R. S. Yeoman), these varieties are not priced in that reference, and collectors seem to have little interest in them. This is strange to me, since so much attention is paid to the transitional mintmark varieties of 1979 and 1981, which are far more difficult to distinguish than the naked-eye varieties of 1928.

    One cautionary note is in order: Late die states of the 1928 Small S coins may show mintmarks that are elongated by die erosion. Do not mistake these for the Large S, which has an entirely different shape. It is noticeably taller, has prominent serifs and is quite a bit thicker at its diagonal stroke than the Small S. This puncheon was never used again, though it is somewhat similar to the Serif S found on various denominations in 1942-44.
  • Thanks for the information, Lee. Very useful.

    According to the Lincoln Cent Resource, this is a Large S...

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    It seems to match-up well with the image that I posted, no?
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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    The Large S example posted above is a later, mushed out die state, while the coppercoins image LeeG posted is a sharper, earlier die state.

    The Large S has hyper serifs- note how the lower serif extends below the bottom curve.

    The thickness of various parts of the mintmarks vary as well. The Large S is quite thin on the bottom and top curves, while the Small S does not vary in thickness as much.

    Also note the inner loops. The Large S has large, rounded gaps for inside loops, while the Small S just has slits, and overall the Small S mintmark is very squashed in appearance.
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