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November 18, 2009



The 2008-W $50.00 Platinum Uncirculated Eagle is now officially the single lowest-mintage American coin ever struck since 1915 ( nearly 100 years!), with a total mintage of only 2,253 pieces!


It is also the single lowest mintage American platinum coin ever struck, and hence the new "king" of the entire platinum series. Not to mention that it bears a beautiful design and high intrinsic value!


Finally, it also bears the single lowest mintage of not only every American coin ever struck since 1915, but of every post 1950 ("modern") American coin ever struck as well. That is a truly amazing statistic, as this is the single lowest mintage coin from the population of all "classic" coins ever struck since 1915, and every single "modern" coin ever produced !!!





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  • I sent mine back and kept the $25. image At least I still have the 4 coin set.
  • SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭


    << <i>November 18, 2009



    The 2008-W $50.00 Platinum Uncirculated Eagle is now officially the single lowest-mintage American coin ever struck since 1915 ( nearly 100 years!), with a total mintage of only 2,253 pieces!


    It is also the single lowest mintage American platinum coin ever struck, and hence the new "king" of the entire platinum series. Not to mention that it bears a beautiful design and high intrinsic value!


    Finally, it also bears the single lowest mintage of not only every American coin ever struck since 1915, but of every post 1950 ("modern") American coin ever struck as well. That is a truly amazing statistic, as this is the single lowest mintage coin from the population of all "classic" coins ever struck since 1915, and every single "modern" coin ever produced !!!





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    I wonder what the mintage would have been, if they didn't bring it back at half the original cost?image

  • Soooooooooooooo) how many were minted?
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FANTASTIC!!! Thanks for the great post!! (I was one of those wishing that they never re-started selling the plats after they stopped the first time. 500 mintage plats would have been incredible!) of course, these numbers are pretty fantastic anyway.
    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "The 2008-W $50.00 Platinum Uncirculated Eagle is now officially the single lowest-mintage American coin ever struck since 1915 ( nearly 100 years!), with a total mintage of only 2,253 pieces!"

    Not entirely true - my 1976 NO S Ike dollar (currently graded by PCGS) has a mintage of -1- coin. There are also many other pattern coins with super low mintages struck since 1915, including -2- pattern SLQ's - one that is unique and on the other one a total of -1- coin existing in private hands backing out the -2- that the Smithsonian owns, and so on. There are beautiful pattern silver commems (in gold and silver) as well as pattern Mercury Dimes, Walkers, etc., etc,. etc. - all with mintages of less than 50 coins total since 1915. Not to mention scattered Silver Commems with mintages under 2,200 coins (yes, I know they are not "type" coins, but that caveat would have to be added as well to make the above statement accurate - no? In other words, one would need to exclude all intentionally struck patterns since 1915 as well as misc. mint-marked coins and, of course, all error coins to begin to make the above statement accurate - no? Now that I think about it, I am also missing some proof type coins as well, such as the 1936 brilliant proof cent with a mintage of roughly 1,600 coins - wouldn't this cent also be lower than the 2008-W $50 platinum since the cent has about a 1,600 mintage?

    I still "love" platinum coins - just need to "keep it real" and in perspective.

    Wondercoin



    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonder if that means this coin would be harder to find than a 2009-D Business strike Jefferson Nickel (with a mintage in the millions)?
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • Mitch - Please lets keep this sane and to non error coins, non patterns, legit issues only - the proofs and arguably the commems are legit, the no "S' is BS. Not to diminish the no "S" coins but we all know the difference. I am sure the Doubled die 1969 Lincolns have a lower mintage, yet we don't consider those in this argument. The type is something to ponder, individual "commerative issues like an "S" mint Oregon half may have a lower mintage, but it "that" type different than the "08" type plats? Honestly I don't know, what should a legit type set include "one of" the plats or all three, should it include one of the $.50 commems or just one? All good questions. So what makes the Pan pacific such a great coin? that’s rhetorical, I think we all know, I am just trying to temper expectations - As you know I own significant positions in all the 06 - 08 plats.


    << <i>"The 2008-W $50.00 Platinum Uncirculated Eagle is now officially the single lowest-mintage American coin ever struck since 1915 ( nearly 100 years!), with a total mintage of only 2,253 pieces!"

    Not entirely true - my 1976 NO S Ike dollar (currently graded by PCGS) has a mintage of -1- coin. There are also many other pattern coins with super low mintages struck since 1915, including -2- pattern SLQ's - one that is unique and on the other one a total of -1- coin existing in private hands backing out the -2- that the Smithsonian owns, and so on. There are beautiful pattern silver commems (in gold and silver) as well as pattern Mercury Dimes, Walkers, etc., etc,. etc. - all with mintages of less than 50 coins total since 1915. Not to mention scattered Silver Commems with mintages under 2,200 coins (yes, I know they are not "type" coins, but that caveat would have to be added as well to make the above statement accurate - no? In other words, one would need to exclude all intentionally struck patterns since 1915 as well as misc. mint-marked coins and, of course, all error coins to begin to make the above statement accurate - no? Now that I think about it, I am also missing some proof type coins as well, such as the 1936 brilliant proof cent with a mintage of roughly 1,600 coins - wouldn't this cent also be lower than the 2008-W $50 platinum since the cent has about a 1,600 mintage?

    I still "love" platinum coins - just need to "keep it real" and in perspective.

    Wondercoin >>





  • << <i>"The 2008-W $50.00 Platinum Uncirculated Eagle is now officially the single lowest-mintage American coin ever struck since 1915 ( nearly 100 years!), with a total mintage of only 2,253 pieces!"

    Not entirely true - my 1976 NO S Ike dollar (currently graded by PCGS) has a mintage of -1- coin. There are also many other pattern coins with super low mintages struck since 1915, including -2- pattern SLQ's - one that is unique and on the other one a total of -1- coin existing in private hands backing out the -2- that the Smithsonian owns, and so on. There are beautiful pattern silver commems (in gold and silver) as well as pattern Mercury Dimes, Walkers, etc., etc,. etc. - all with mintages of less than 50 coins total since 1915. Not to mention scattered Silver Commems with mintages under 2,200 coins (yes, I know they are not "type" coins, but that caveat would have to be added as well to make the above statement accurate - no? In other words, one would need to exclude all intentionally struck patterns since 1915 as well as misc. mint-marked coins and, of course, all error coins to begin to make the above statement accurate - no? Now that I think about it, I am also missing some proof type coins as well, such as the 1936 brilliant proof cent with a mintage of roughly 1,600 coins - wouldn't this cent also be lower than the 2008-W $50 platinum since the cent has about a 1,600 mintage?

    I still "love" platinum coins - just need to "keep it real" and in perspective.

    Wondercoin >>







    ... OK, then ... here is some perspective ....


    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest mintage REGULAR - ISSUE coin ever issued by the United States since 1915 (100 years) ....

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever issued by the United States ...

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage .....



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    I also did not think that it needed to be said but apparently it does .... patterns and error coins are obviously not "regular issues"


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  • << <i>Soooooooooooooo) how many were minted? >>





    2253 pieces


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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>"The 2008-W $50.00 Platinum Uncirculated Eagle is now officially the single lowest-mintage American coin ever struck since 1915 ( nearly 100 years!), with a total mintage of only 2,253 pieces!"

    Not entirely true - my 1976 NO S Ike dollar (currently graded by PCGS) has a mintage of -1- coin. There are also many other pattern coins with super low mintages struck since 1915, including -2- pattern SLQ's - one that is unique and on the other one a total of -1- coin existing in private hands backing out the -2- that the Smithsonian owns, and so on. There are beautiful pattern silver commems (in gold and silver) as well as pattern Mercury Dimes, Walkers, etc., etc,. etc. - all with mintages of less than 50 coins total since 1915. Not to mention scattered Silver Commems with mintages under 2,200 coins (yes, I know they are not "type" coins, but that caveat would have to be added as well to make the above statement accurate - no? In other words, one would need to exclude all intentionally struck patterns since 1915 as well as misc. mint-marked coins and, of course, all error coins to begin to make the above statement accurate - no? Now that I think about it, I am also missing some proof type coins as well, such as the 1936 brilliant proof cent with a mintage of roughly 1,600 coins - wouldn't this cent also be lower than the 2008-W $50 platinum since the cent has about a 1,600 mintage?

    I still "love" platinum coins - just need to "keep it real" and in perspective.

    Wondercoin >>







    ... OK, then ... here is some perspective ....


    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest mintage REGULAR - ISSUE coin ever issued by the United States since 1915 (100 years) ....

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever issued by the United States ...

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage, ever issued by the United States .....




    I also did not think that it needed to be said but apparently it does .... patterns and error coins are obviously not "regular issues"


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    I think that you know very little and don't understand that Wondercoin DOES know platinum coins pretty darn well. Of course, you seem to have infinite knowledge and wisdom and probably know a ton more than you let on, right? image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment


  • "I am also missing some proof type coins as well, such as the 1936 brilliant proof cent with a mintage of roughly 1,600 coins - wouldn't this cent also be lower than the 2008-W $50 platinum since the cent has about a 1,600 mintage? "




    ... sorry, I did not see the 1936 "brilliant proof" cent listed in the Red Book; rather, all of the 1936 proof cents are lumped together ... mintage 5569





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  • << <i>I think that you know very little and don't understand that Wondercoin DOES know platinum coins pretty darn well. Of course, you seem to have infinite knowledge and wisdom and probably know a ton more than you let on, right? image >>



    Bochi-
    Don't be presumptuous in what people know or don't know. We all have a knowledge level that is advanced, ASSuming one's knowledge over the others is foolish and not conducive to advancing yourself. All may have something to contribute.


  • " I think that you know very little and don't understand that Wondercoin DOES know platinum coins pretty darn well. Of course, you seem to have infinite knowledge and wisdom and probably know a ton more than you let on, right? "



    ... not a ton more, just what the newly-published mintage figures indicate



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  • "Bochi-

    Don't be presumptuous in what people know or don't know. We all have a knowledge level that is advanced, ASSuming one's knowledge over the others is foolish and not conducive to advancing yourself. All may have something to contribute. "





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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"I am also missing some proof type coins as well, such as the 1936 brilliant proof cent with a mintage of roughly 1,600 coins - wouldn't this cent also be lower than the 2008-W $50 platinum since the cent has about a 1,600 mintage? "




    ... sorry, I did not see the 1936 "brilliant proof" cent listed in the Red Book; rather, all of the 1936 proof cents are lumped together ... mintage 5569





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    Really? Nothing like the 1916 matte proof lincoln? 1050 (it's in the red book...have you looked?)
    1916 proof buff nick (600)


    Those even had a better chance of circulating than the recent plats/gold/silver eagles image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • Here is mine, I have thought several times about sending it to PCGS for grading but I like the look in the original packaging too. The coin is better than the photos.

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    Bob

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clack: That is fine that you think some of my comparision coins might be valid while you disagree with some of the others. That's what makes for a good debate.

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    Wondercoin
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  • "Mitch - Please lets keep this sane and to non error coins, non patterns, legit issues only - the proofs and arguably the commems are legit, the no "S' is BS. Not to diminish the no "S" coins but we all know the difference. I am sure the Doubled die 1969 Lincolns have a lower mintage, yet we don't consider those in this argument. The type is something to ponder, individual "commerative issues like an "S" mint Oregon half may have a lower mintage, but it "that" type different than the "08" type plats? Honestly I don't know, what should a legit type set include "one of" the plats or all three, should it include one of the $.50 commems or just one? All good questions. So what makes the Pan pacific such a great coin? that’s rhetorical, I think we all know, I am just trying to temper expectations - As you know I own significant positions in all the 06 - 08 plats."





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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I think that you know very little and don't understand that Wondercoin DOES know platinum coins pretty darn well. Of course, you seem to have infinite knowledge and wisdom and probably know a ton more than you let on, right? image >>



    Bochi-
    Don't be presumptuous in what people know or don't know. We all have a knowledge level that is advanced, ASSuming one's knowledge over the others is foolish and not conducive to advancing yourself. All may have something to contribute. >>



    Clack....I've watched his posts for awhile and I've seen Mitch's posts for much longer. I would put my money on what Mitch knows about the plats and the market WAY ahead of what this one does.
    So, you shouldn't be presumptuous about what you ASSume I have seen from the OP's posts and threads image
    For myself, I know I don't know much about these other than their cost basis is high, their mintage (and collector base) is low (relative to many series), and there is always someone pumping them every now and then that seems to do nothing else than pump them image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment



  • << <i>I sent mine back and kept the $25. image At least I still have the 4 coin set. >>





    ... OUCH ... I'm Sorry!



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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Really? Nothing like the 1916 matte proof lincoln? 1050 (it's in the red book...have you looked?)
    1916 proof buff nick (600)"

    Bochiman - Yes, as I mentioned, the "lowest mintage coin since 1915" obviously needs a further caveat - namely, that the comment only pertains to "type".

    Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Really? Nothing like the 1916 matte proof lincoln? 1050 (it's in the red book...have you looked?)
    1916 proof buff nick (600)"

    Bochiman - Yes, as I mentioned, the "lowest mintage coin since 1915" obviously needs a further caveat - namely, that the comment only pertains to "type".

    Wondercoin >>



    I knew where you were going with it....but some didn't want to look past the $$$$ and hurt my feelings by calling me "presumptuous".....and I think most on the boards know how sensitive I am image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment



  • " For myself, I know I don't know much about these other than their cost basis is high, their mintage (and collector base) is low (relative to many series), and there is always someone pumping them every now and then that seems to do nothing else than pump them "





    ... if getting excited about a coin that I own is "pumping it", then I guess I will pump away ... I only wish I could lose some weight in the process






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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's have a civil, friendly debate...

    I questioned the heading of this thread as accurate. I presented some comments. I am open to trying to understand if the 2008-W $50 is truly the "lowest-mintage American coin struck since 1915".

    Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.


  • << <i>

    << <i>"Really? Nothing like the 1916 matte proof lincoln? 1050 (it's in the red book...have you looked?)
    1916 proof buff nick (600)"

    Bochiman - Yes, as I mentioned, the "lowest mintage coin since 1915" obviously needs a further caveat - namely, that the comment only pertains to "type".

    Wondercoin >>



    I knew where you were going with it....but some didn't want to look past the $$$$ and hurt my feelings by calling me "presumptuous".....and I think most on the boards know how sensitive I am image >>



    Dude - you know me I am not trying to hurt your feelings ..... dang now I fell like s*&^. BTW - Did you see myt MS65RB 1868 Indian cent? BTW - the OTHER thing, I know, mostly from a large investment in them are the 06-08 plats. I agree Mitch is in the know, but so are others. Honestly I would seriously agree with Mitch and temper the argument that they are "THE' lowest mintage coin, its one of those arguments that can be won, but with the caveat. Lets flush out the caveats and get to the truth.



  • Mitch:

    I am sure that you are a fine dealer, and I also enjoy a good dialogue. However, I am also presenting the facts as they now stand. If we want to split hairs, then I am
    certainly happy to change "1915" to "1916".

    That said:




    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest mintage REGULAR - ISSUE coin ever issued by the United States since 1916 (93 years) ....

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever issued by the United States ...

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage .....






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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>I sent mine back and kept the $25. At least I still have the 4 coin set.<<

    The $25 is no slouch either, with a mintage of 2481.

    My Adolph A. Weinman signature :)



  • << <i>Mitch:

    I am sure that you are a fine dealer, and I also enjoy a good dialogue. However, I am also presenting the facts as they now stand. If we want to split hairs, then I am
    certainly happy to change "1915" to "1916".

    That said:




    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest mintage REGULAR - ISSUE coin ever issued by the United States since 1916 (93 years) ....

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever issued by the United States ...

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage .....


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    Bravo - thats whats we are looking for!!!!
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kingplatinum: If you could please amplify something... Are you saying then that the 2008-W $50 platinum coin is a "regular issue", but the 1935-D Daniel Boone Silver Commem with a mintage of 2,003 is NOT a "regular issue"? I am just trying to understand your position.

    Wondercoin
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  • << <i>Kingplatinum: If you could please amplify something... Are you saying then that the 2008-W $50 platinum coin is a "regular issue", but the 1935-D Daniel Boone Silver Commem with a mintage of 2,003 is NOT a "regular issue"? I am just trying to understand your position.

    Wondercoin >>






    ... no problem ... if that is the case, then the following is true:



    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest mintage REGULAR - ISSUE TYPE COIN ever released by the United States since 1915 (94 years) ....


    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest mintage REGULAR - ISSUE COIN ever released by the United States since 1935 (74 years) ....


    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever released by the United States ...


    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle is the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage .....



    ... pump .... pump ... pump .... image








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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever released by the United States ...

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage ..... >>



    I can agree with that. image

    However, I do not, as a type collector, agree with your (or Eric's) definition of type coin -- as I view neither commems nor plats as individual type coins. image Incidentally, I suspect the vast majority of type collectors agree with me.

    Regardless, none of that changes the exceedingly low mintage of the 2008W $50 plat -- clearly the lowest mintage regular-issue modern coin and (for now) the king of plats. image

    Respectfully...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.


  • << <i>

    << <i>The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever released by the United States ...

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage ..... >>



    I can agree with that. image

    However, I do not, as a type collector, agree with your (or Eric's) definition of type coin -- as I view neither commems nor plats as individual type coins. image Incidentally, I suspect the vast majority of type collectors agree with me.

    Regardless, none of that changes the exceedingly low mintage of the 2008W $50 plat -- clearly the lowest mintage modern coin and (for now) the king of plats. image

    Respectfully...Mike >>







    Hi Mike!

    Not a problem ... to each their own. However, you did leave out that the 2008-W platinum $50.00 uncirculated eagle is also the lowest-mintage coin ever issued
    by the United States since 1935.

    Sorry, I am just having fun at this point ... I think we all appreciate what this coin represents!








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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    However, I do not, as a type collector, agree with your (or Eric's) definition of type coin -- as I view neither commems nor plats as individual type coins. Incidentally, I suspect the vast majority of type collectors agree with me.

    I am not a type collector, but I am a fan of the Plats, and I tend to agree with Mike.

    Did anyone notice that the 2008-W Burnished Plats seem to be better-executed than the previous years?

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the lowest-mintage REGULAR - ISSUE modern coin (post-1950) ever released by the United States ...

    The 2008-W uncirculated $50.00 platinum eagle still remains the unique "king" of all platinum coins, based on mintage ..... >>



    I can agree with that. image

    However, I do not, as a type collector, agree with your (or Eric's) definition of type coin -- as I view neither commems nor plats as individual type coins. image Incidentally, I suspect the vast majority of type collectors agree with me.

    Regardless, none of that changes the exceedingly low mintage of the 2008W $50 plat -- clearly the lowest mintage modern coin and (for now) the king of plats. image

    Respectfully...Mike >>



    Hi Mike!

    Not a problem ... to each their own. However, you did leave out that the 2008-W platinum $50.00 uncirculated eagle is also the lowest-mintage coin ever issued
    by the United States since 1935.

    Sorry, I am just having fun at this point ... I think we all appreciate what this coin represents! >>



    I left it out because I wasn't sure one way or the other. I think I agree, but I'm not sure. image

    That said, if we can all appreciate what it represents, why overstate it? image

    Socratically yours...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.


  • << <i>However, I do not, as a type collector, agree with your (or Eric's) definition of type coin -- as I view neither commems nor plats as individual type coins. Incidentally, I suspect the vast majority of type collectors agree with me.

    I am not a type collector, but I am a fan of the Plats, and I tend to agree with Mike.

    Did anyone notice that the 2008-W Burnished Plats seem to be better-executed than the previous years? >>








    ... I did not really notice a difference, except that I heard far fewer 2008-W platinum proofs are grading Proof-70. Perhap Mitch would care to comment on this?



  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>... I did not really notice a difference, except that I heard far fewer 2008-W platinum proofs are grading Proof-70.<<

    Speaking of which, the 2008-W proof plat has a mintage of only 4020, making it the rarest U.S. proof coin since (pick a date of your choice). image

    Edited to add: 2008-W $50 proof plat, of course! image

    My Adolph A. Weinman signature :)



  • << <i>>>... I did not really notice a difference, except that I heard far fewer 2008-W platinum proofs are grading Proof-70.<<

    Speaking of which, the 2008-W proof plat has a mintage of only 4020, making it the rarest U.S. proof coin since (pick a date of your choice). image >>






    ..... since 1937 .... tee hee hee image
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"However, I do not, as a type collector, agree with your (or Eric's) definition of type coin -- as I view neither commems nor plats as individual type coins."





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    I presume that means you disagree.

    Shall we start a poll and see who's right?
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Better keep moving up those dates as the 1938 Boones and Arkansas coins also have sub-2,105 mintages.

    Also, Mike in FLA hit the nail on the head with his comment on not overstating the 08-W $50. It is a good coin with a mintage now lower than the 06-W $50. But, for those of you who forget... the US Mint took about 3-4 mintage adjustments (in all directions) to accurately determine the mintage of the 2005 Proof platinum coins. At various points in time in 2006, the mintage figures on the 2005 proofs were beneath 2004 proofs (and prices ran on the 05 plats on the bad information). But, that all changed within the following year when the mint, once again, changed 05 proof plat mintages to reflect higher mintages than the 04 proof coins. While it is entirely possible that the 08-W $50 could remain a lower mintage coin than the 06-W $50 and other burnished coins, IMHO, it would not be outside the realm of reason to consider that we could see at least one more mintage adjustment before "all the dust settles".

    Wondercoin

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  • << <i>

    << <i>"However, I do not, as a type collector, agree with your (or Eric's) definition of type coin -- as I view neither commems nor plats as individual type coins."





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    I presume that means you disagree.

    Shall we start a poll and see who's right? >>






    ... I consider the platinum coins to fall into the "Type Coin" catagory ....
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MikeinFLA - Is it your contention that when considering "type", one must include all (4) demoninations into the equation? In other words, are the $50 2008-W coins stand alone type coins, or would it be reasonable to consider all (4) denominations ($10, $25, $50, $100) within the single "type" coin mintage (just as P,D,S coins are considered within a year of type or all years within a type)?

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  • " Better keep moving up those dates as the 1938 Boones and Arkansas coins also have sub-2,105 mintages."



    Actually, now that I have my Red Book in front of me, 1939 would appear be the magic year. That said, the 2008-W platinum $50.00 uncirculated coin is the lowest
    mintage American coin ever issued since 1939.

    And the lowest mintage "Modern" American coin ever issued ....

    And the lowest mintage platinum coin ever issued ......



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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>. . . are the $50 2008-W coins stand alone type coins, or would it be reasonable to consider all (4) denominations ($10, $25, $50, $100) within the single "type" coin mintage (just as P,D,S coins are considered within a year of type or all years within a type)?<<

    My initial take on this question would be "no". If all denominations with the same basic design are considered to be a "type," how would this impact the Barber, Liberty Seated, Bust etc. series?

    Things get a little fuzzier when considering whether uncirculated and proof versions of the same coin should be classified as a single "type." I don't have any firm opinion on that issue.

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  • << <i>... I did not really notice a difference, except that I heard far fewer 2008-W platinum proofs are grading Proof-70. Perhap Mitch would care to comment on this? >>

    Here's the latest PCGS pop report for the 2008-W plat proofs:

    $100 PR69=366 PR70=130
    $50 PR69=325 PR70=210
    $25 PR69=349 PR70=195
    $10 PR69=275 PR70=333
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  • ... my personal opinion is that each denomination within the platinum set would be considered a separate "type" coin (just as a "classic" type set requires a Barber dime,
    Barber quarter, ect.).




    Regarding the original discussion of the 2008-W $50.00 platinum uncirculated American Eagle coin, the general thinking now seems to be as follows:



    1) It is the lowest-mintage regular issue American coin ever released since 1939

    2) It is the lowest-mintage modern American coin ever released, period

    3) It is likely the lowest-mintage "type" coin issued by the United States since 1915


    AND ALSO


    4) It is the lowest-mintage REGULAR ISSUE precious metal coin ever released by the United States since 1900

    5) It is the lowest-mintage platinum coin ever issued by the United States (and the key to the platinum set)




    Hey, gang, this just happens to be a favorite "trophy" coin of mine for the above reasons. If you share my feelings, great. If not, then I am also happy for you!

    I just enjoy carefully analyzing this piece, and realizing all of the "absolutes" listed above that it seems to represent, which are good enough for me!







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    << <i>... I did not really notice a difference, except that I heard far fewer 2008-W platinum proofs are grading Proof-70. Perhap Mitch would care to comment on this? >>

    Here's the latest PCGS pop report for the 2008-W plat proofs:

    $100 PR69=366 PR70=130
    $50 PR69=325 PR70=210
    $25 PR69=349 PR70=195
    $10 PR69=275 PR70=333 >>







    Thank you!


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  • << <i>>>. . . are the $50 2008-W coins stand alone type coins, or would it be reasonable to consider all (4) denominations ($10, $25, $50, $100) within the single "type" coin mintage (just as P,D,S coins are considered within a year of type or all years within a type)?<<

    My initial take on this question would be "no". If all denominations with the same basic design are considered to be a "type," how would this impact the Barber, Liberty Seated, Bust etc. series?

    Things get a little fuzzier when considering whether uncirculated and proof versions of the same coin should be classified as a single "type." I don't have any firm opinion on that issue. >>

    That's a good point, overdate. I initially viewed all denominations of the same design in the platinum series as a single type, but then thinking about the Barber, Liberty Seated and American Gold Eagle coins made me change my mind. It seems hypocritical to consider a Barber quarter and half as distinct types, but the APE dime, quarter, half and ouncer as the same type.

    I also tend to view proof and uncirculated as distinct types.

    When forming an opinion about what constitutes a distinct type, it's good to think about ALL of the different variations of American coinage.
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Regarding the original discussion of the 2008-W $50.00 platinum uncirculated American Eagle coin, the general thinking now seems to be as follows:

    3) It is likely the lowest-mintage "type" coin issued by the United States since 1915 *

    * We still need to hash out whether 1936 Satin and Brilliant proof cents are separate type coins and, if they are, the 1936 brilliant coin would be lower at an estimated 1,600 mintage.


    AND ALSO


    4) It is the lowest-mintage REGULAR ISSUE precious metal coin ever released by the United States since 1900 *

    * I think you mean 1915 here?

    5) It is the lowest-mintage platinum coin ever issued by the United States (and the key to the platinum set)*

    *While the coin MAY (or may not) turn out to be the lowest mintage platinum coin eventually, it is, IMHO, by no means the "key". Unless, of course, the value of the coin as compared to a number of more valuable platinum coins in the set is not considered in making this determination.

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