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A little quiz about $20 Coronet/Liberty Double Eagles

orevilleoreville Posts: 12,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
What is erroneous in this commentary about $20 Coronet/Liberty gold coins?

This was shown on the goldine.com web site. It contains two noticable errors. I am not speaking of the Coronet vs. Liberty nomenclature.



<< <i>Design of the $20 Liberty Gold Coin
Designed by James B. Longacre, the obverse of the $20 Liberty gold coin features Miss Liberty donning a crown inscribed with the word 'LIBERTY'. Thirteen stars representing the original thirteen colonies and the date encircle her.

The reverse features a bald eagle behind a striped shield. The words 'UNITED STATES OF AMERICA' arc around the top of the coin. A total of three different types of $20 Liberties were minted during its time in circulation. Depending upon the date and type, other pieces of information are listed on the reverse, as listed below.

Type I
Type I coins do not feature the motto 'IN GOD WE TRUST' and the denomination is written as "Twenty D.". Assistant engraver Anthony Pacquet created a second version of the reverse, but the redesigned coins were discarded and melted down.

Type II
The 'IN GOD WE TRUST' motto was added to the reverse in 1866, resulting in the Type II design. Rev. M.R. Watkinson of Ridleyville, PA, spearheaded this change by asking Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase to include the motto on the nation's coins in 1861. Such legislation eventually passed in 1865. Another Type II design change involved altering the shape of the shield on the reverse from straight to curved in the ornate rococo style of the day.

Type III
In 1877, the denomination was changed to read 'TWENTY DOLLARS' instead of 'TWENTY D.' This is the only difference between Type II and Type III $20 Liberty gold coins. >>

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << Type III
    In 1877, the denomination was changed to read 'TWENTY DOLLARS' instead of 'TWENTY D.' This is the only difference between Type II and Type III $20 Liberty gold coins. >>

    Oreville: Another major change between Type II and Type III Double Eagles was the centering of Miss Liberty's portrait.


    << Assistant engraver Anthony Pacquet created a second version of the reverse, but the redesigned coins were discarded and melted down. >>
    Some Pacquet reverse $20 Gold Double Eagles were not melted and still exist...

    Stuart

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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    Can I buy a vowel?
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also: Scrollwork widened on reverse containing E. Pluribus Unum & Miss Liberty's portait slightly modified.

    Stuart

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  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    The alternate reverse was produced in 1861, only a few are known.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << Can I buy a vowel? >>

    Jay are you trying to start a Vowel Movement here? image (I had to type that very carefully...)

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Technically, there are many errors and omissions. One of the less obvious is that Rev Mark Watkinson did not recommend "In God We Trust" as a motto. This was Sec Chase or Director Pollock's idea. Also, Watkinson lived in Ridley, PA not "Ridleyville." (You can find the story of the motto in "Renaissance of American Coinage 1905-1908.")

    Type III also had the obverse relief reduced, etc. etc.
  • BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Type III
    In 1877, the denomination was changed to read 'TWENTY DOLLARS' instead of 'TWENTY D.' This is the only difference between Type II and Type III $20 Liberty gold coins.


    Oreville,
    I think I know what you are looking for--the features of Miss Liberty's hair are more defined and "improved" on Type III's resulting in a "spaghetti hair look" not unlike more recent Washington quarters.

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had saintguru been known as coronetguru or liberty$20guru he wouldn't be buying vowels.

    Problem is I do not know Saints well enough to post a quiz like this on Saints.

    That's saintguru's department. image

    Then I can ask to buy a vowel there! image
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