Ebay shocker
JamesMurray
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Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen ,
i thought id share this one with you as i know a lot of you frequent ebay as i myself do as both buyer and seller.I thought feedback extortion was bad enough but even this seller has sunk to a new low , even for ebay.
I won an auction for 2 coins , one of which i surmised was a worthwhile coin,perhaps worth more than id paid , hard to tell without seeing it in hand.Id guess it is.
The auction listing required signed for delivery , quite steep , i paid in full using paypal.
The very next morning im told shipping will be double and also additional charge for packing materials.Id already paid a very steep charge and its to be doubled.I queried it and the reply was id been refunded and the coins relisted.
Of course i was far from pleased and reported the seller , ebays response was much handwringing and apologising for inconvienence and suggested i use the feedback system.
So of course i negged the seller which prompted them to message me in ebay to tell me a facebook page has been set up using my name and address claiming im a sex offender.
When you think ebay cant sink any lower , all of this is in writing in my messages which ive given ebay permission to read.It will be interesting to see whats done about it.
I will update ebays response , id rather not post sellers details nor mine at this point.
My post is basically an alert of what could be happening without your knowledge when details are exchanged so freely.Ill certainly have to think about continuing to sell there to unknowns or more to the point buy and supply full details.
i thought id share this one with you as i know a lot of you frequent ebay as i myself do as both buyer and seller.I thought feedback extortion was bad enough but even this seller has sunk to a new low , even for ebay.
I won an auction for 2 coins , one of which i surmised was a worthwhile coin,perhaps worth more than id paid , hard to tell without seeing it in hand.Id guess it is.
The auction listing required signed for delivery , quite steep , i paid in full using paypal.
The very next morning im told shipping will be double and also additional charge for packing materials.Id already paid a very steep charge and its to be doubled.I queried it and the reply was id been refunded and the coins relisted.
Of course i was far from pleased and reported the seller , ebays response was much handwringing and apologising for inconvienence and suggested i use the feedback system.
So of course i negged the seller which prompted them to message me in ebay to tell me a facebook page has been set up using my name and address claiming im a sex offender.
When you think ebay cant sink any lower , all of this is in writing in my messages which ive given ebay permission to read.It will be interesting to see whats done about it.
I will update ebays response , id rather not post sellers details nor mine at this point.
My post is basically an alert of what could be happening without your knowledge when details are exchanged so freely.Ill certainly have to think about continuing to sell there to unknowns or more to the point buy and supply full details.
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Care to list the ebay ID for this person?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
a page has in fact been activated.
Camelot
i'm not a litigious person but this is over the line and calls for legal action, if true
www.brunkauctions.com
As frustrating as this is look at it as a wonderful opportunity. I would go after this guy with everything I have, legally of course. Starting with a defamation of character lawsuit that would leave him broke.
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
One must join that circle of friends (and be approved) in order to view a Facebook page.
I'm not certain how a Facebook page would be able to say anything publicly to everyone who is not in that circle.
There are other social networking sites that are less private than Facebook. Perhaps it is a hollow threat? Regardless, what a terrible experience.
Maybe ebay should press the charges .
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So of course i negged the seller which prompted them to message me in ebay to tell me a facebook page has been set up using my name and address claiming im a sex offender.
Contact Facebook they will remove it, then contact that sleaze bag and tell him he might be hearing from his local DA.
Steve
In any event sorry this happened to you.
Steve
<< <i>As I understand Facebook, your user profile is really only visible to your circle of friends.
One must join that circle of friends (and be approved) in order to view a Facebook page.
I'm not certain how a Facebook page would be able to say anything publicly to everyone who is not in that circle.
There are other social networking sites that are less private than Facebook. Perhaps it is a hollow threat? Regardless, what a terrible experience. >>
Incorrect about facebook. There are different levels of privacy settings and one can be setup to allow everyone to view (that may still be the default, I'm not sure).
I know that one has to go into their FB account to be more restrictive (to get to what you are referring to).
So, if this person sets the page up, they are attacking James very openly and need to be dealt with...UK or not.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
The name is LEE!
Something like: "Seller doubled fees AFTER auction was won/paid..against ebay policy!"
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
A search on Facebook for "James Murray" shows well over 500 people and of those, all sorts of folks have questionable avatars. Finding the one listing this guy left for you is going to be like finding a needle in a haystack.
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I don't have the guts to post the avatar images directly to this forum. You'll have to follow the links.
Nevermind
<< <i>Okay, i'm not trying to make light of your current situation, which sucks.
A search on Facebook for "James Murray" shows well over 500 people and of those, all sorts of folks have questionable avatars. Finding the one listing this guy left for you is going to be like finding a needle in a haystack.
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I don't have the guts to post the avatar images directly to this forum. You'll have to follow the links. >>
That fourth one is obviously supposed to be camouflage, not blackface.
I was under the impression that the sleaze bag included James' address or something that would
allow people to know it was this specific James Murray.
Boichman you are correct.
On both accounts.
Steve
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
<< <i>A little late, but if this is your feedback (which, it would appear to be): "this seller opened a facebook page in my name and address,reported to police." then I think you could have chosen something better that would mean more to bidders.
Something like: "Seller doubled fees AFTER auction was won/paid..against ebay policy!" >>
Agreed, your feedback will mean VERY little to other users on ebay. Many times such remarks leave me feeling worse about the submitter than the one being issued the feedback because it appears to those that don't have your explanation as you have given to us like "Huh?". The suggested remark would have made much more sense.
This person is just flying off at the mouth like a child trying to get even HOWEVER I feel for your turmoil over such an issue. My first thought legally was that you might have to have a very fat wallet to sue over this issue legally if it were even possible given the locations.
Sorry for what you have gone through over this and the panic you must have felt.
Leo
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<< <i>A little late, but if this is your feedback (which, it would appear to be): "this seller opened a facebook page in my name and address,reported to police." then I think you could have chosen something better that would mean more to bidders.
Something like: "Seller doubled fees AFTER auction was won/paid..against ebay policy!" >>
To be clear on that , i had initially written " seller refuse to honor auction" and was forwarded a revise feedback request.I was told by this maniac the facebook page was up and i might want to reconsider my feedback.
I did rethink the feedback as you could plainly see.
I dont want to drag all this over the coals again , just an update , anyone who guessed Ebay will do absolutely nothing about it wins a coconut.I noticed the seller marked his feedback private and can no longer sell on ebay while feedback is marked private.I think it takes a year before a neg disappears.
To answer the question why did i bid on this persons items , i had been browsing and came on it in the final minutes , the price was right for what it was , i didnt forsee a problem really , just a couple of old coppers.
I truly wish there was an option to ebay , they are swiftly becoming untolerable.I was held to feedback extortion recently , nothing was done about that either although the messages are right there in ebay messages.
Saturdays debacle resulting in items selling far too cheap , the offer of half price listing from the 23rd to the 25th was renegged on this morning and we are informed if we did list items which im sure plenty of us did we will be charged the full rate.
How can they just get away with that ?
<< <i>>> tell me a facebook page has been set up using my name and address claiming im a sex offender>>
i'm not a litigious person but this is over the line and calls for legal action, if true >>
<< <i>James,
As frustrating as this is look at it as a wonderful opportunity. I would go after this guy with everything I have, legally of course. Starting with a defamation of character lawsuit that would leave him broke. >>
<< <i>As I understand Facebook, your user profile is really only visible to your circle of friends.
One must join that circle of friends (and be approved) in order to view a Facebook page.
I'm not certain how a Facebook page would be able to say anything publicly to everyone who is not in that circle.
There are other social networking sites that are less private than Facebook. Perhaps it is a hollow threat? Regardless, what a terrible experience. >>
Facebook has now made it so you can Opt to have your profile for public veiwing all you have to do is change it in your profile settings that anyone can view your page.....
Dealing with eBay is kind of like dealing with the government.
...but if you don't want to let it go, as I understand, UK courts are friendly places for defamation plaintiffs. That's why you always hear about high-profile defamation plaintiffs trying to forum-shop into UK courts, even when there are only remote connections between the parties' actions and the UK. You could get a much better idea of what it would take to move forward with this by hiring a UK lawyer (solicitor), which is almost as easy as hiring a local lawyer with the net.