Football XRC set
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for some reason i've always been interested in pre rookie card especially if it was from a league other than the NFL. i'm sure i'm missing some older ones.. but these were the top XRC that i could think of off the top of my head
1971 O-Pee-Chee Cfl 13 Joe Theismann
1983 Jogo Cfl Limited N/A Warren Moon
1984 Topps Usfl 36 Jim Kelly
1984 Topps Usfl 38 Ricky Sanders
1984 Topps Usfl 52 Steve Young
1984 Topps Usfl 58 Reggie White
1984 Topps Usfl 74 Herschel Walker
1985 Topps Usfl 49 Gary Clark
1985 Topps Usfl 80 Doug Flutie
1991 Pro Set Wlaf 143 Jason Garrett
1991 All-World Cfl 92 Raghib Ismail
1995 Jogo Cfl 8 Jeff Garcia
1995 Jogo Cfl 137 Joe Horn
1995 Iowa Barnstormers Team Issue 13 Kurt Warner
here are a few but just NFL pre rookies
1986 Mcdonald's Eagles 12 Randall Cunningham
1988 Burger King 2 Emmitt Smith
1988 Kenner Starting Lineup N/A Rod Woodson
i'd be interested to know any i've missed..
1971 O-Pee-Chee Cfl 13 Joe Theismann
1983 Jogo Cfl Limited N/A Warren Moon
1984 Topps Usfl 36 Jim Kelly
1984 Topps Usfl 38 Ricky Sanders
1984 Topps Usfl 52 Steve Young
1984 Topps Usfl 58 Reggie White
1984 Topps Usfl 74 Herschel Walker
1985 Topps Usfl 49 Gary Clark
1985 Topps Usfl 80 Doug Flutie
1991 Pro Set Wlaf 143 Jason Garrett
1991 All-World Cfl 92 Raghib Ismail
1995 Jogo Cfl 8 Jeff Garcia
1995 Jogo Cfl 137 Joe Horn
1995 Iowa Barnstormers Team Issue 13 Kurt Warner
here are a few but just NFL pre rookies
1986 Mcdonald's Eagles 12 Randall Cunningham
1988 Burger King 2 Emmitt Smith
1988 Kenner Starting Lineup N/A Rod Woodson
i'd be interested to know any i've missed..
Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
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1961 Lake to Lake Packers has several pre-rookies.
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1961 Nu Card Ernie Davis
1982 Oneonta Yankees John Elway
1995 Bowman Chris Weinke
1996 Best Piedmont Boll Weevils Ricky Williams
There's quite a few more, including other '61 Nu Cards, but those are the ones I can think of now.
And for the third time dude, the '83 Moon is NOT his official pre-rookie card. It's a cool card, and it's worth more than the '81 Jogo, but it just aint his first card. Do you discount all the '69 and '70 Topps basketball rookies because they're oversized? Don't go by what you own. Go by the true first issues. Heck, Moon had 2 cards in '81 including the Red Rooster perforated one.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
1960 Kahns Willie Davis on the Browns before he made his way to the Packers and a HOF career.
1959 Kahns Gene Hickerson
1962 Post Bob Lilly
1962 Post Larry Wilson
also.....1926 Spalding Ernie Nevers and Benny Friedman
1946 Sears Browns Otto Graham, Frank Gatski, and Dante Lavelli
1950 Felt Back Ernie Stautner and Lou Creekmur
1950 Admiral Rams Norm VanBrocklin
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Does PSA grade those?
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Here are a few, some of which were mentioned above.
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BTW....I only saved Hall of Famers
1. 1946 Sears Frank Gatski...... ( I will be owning this card very soon and I'll get a scan up)
2. 1959 Kahn's Gene Hickerson ( I currently own this card but am too lazy to scan it)
3. 1960 Kahns Wille Davis
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i have joe horn.. but would be interested in garcia
<< <i>cool scans.. alot of very cool cards.. obviously i'm in the minority.. but these cards have to be much more scares than their topps/bowman rookies.. i think these types of cards are very under valued. maybe they will start to gain some popularity as they are added to psa sets ect..
i have joe horn.. but would be interested in garcia >>
Well, it will be interesting to see how PSA handles these cards as far as the Registry goes. They have stated pretty clearly that any card used in a "Rookie" type set MUST be listed in the Beckett Ultimate Rookie Card Encylopedia. Of all the cards discussed, only the USFL ones are listed in it, and yes the book does include cards considered XRC's by Beckett's definition.
They might go for an all XRC only set though....
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<< <i>Well, it will be interesting to see how PSA handles these cards as far as the Registry goes. They have stated pretty clearly that any card used in a "Rookie" type set MUST be listed in the Beckett Ultimate Rookie Card Encylopedia. Of all the cards discussed, only the USFL ones are listed in it, and yes the book does include cards considered XRC's by Beckett's definition. >>
Since this will be a PRE-rookie set, I highly doubt PSA will have any issues with it. They have no guidelines set up for pre-rookie cards. The only possible issue I can forsee would be the inclusion of the USFL cards, since they are already used in rookie card sets. Personally I would exclude the USFL cards from this set. It should really be for more oddball-type stuff.
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<< <i>Well, it will be interesting to see how PSA handles these cards as far as the Registry goes. They have stated pretty clearly that any card used in a "Rookie" type set MUST be listed in the Beckett Ultimate Rookie Card Encylopedia. Of all the cards discussed, only the USFL ones are listed in it, and yes the book does include cards considered XRC's by Beckett's definition. >>
Since this will be a PRE-rookie set, I highly doubt PSA will have any issues with it. They have no guidelines set up for pre-rookie cards. The only possible issue I can forsee would be the inclusion of the USFL cards, since they are already used in rookie card sets. Personally I would exclude the USFL cards from this set. It should really be for more oddball-type stuff. >>
I agree, that's probably the angle that could work. If it's multi-sport (like the Elway baseball card) I wonder where they will list it? Under Misc sets?
The other issue will be, how will they verify which cards belong and which don't? I guess they can just take the requestors word for it, but what if the guy requesting it uses the 1983 Moon as discussed above? I don't see a recourse for fixing it. That's why they ended up using the Beckett book for guidance, because of all of the discrepancies/disagreements that were going on in the rookie sets.
Jason
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2001 Topps XFL - Mike Furrey
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1992 Wild Card World League - Scott Mitchell
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