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Very rare transitional PCGS 5.5(pending) slab/label which appeared in the fall of 1998???

orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
I believe there is a very rare transitional PCGS 5.5(pending) slab/label which appeared in the fall of 1998 but has not yet been affirmed and published.

The label is blue colored just like the current blue PCGS label which started with the PCGS 6 label.
However, the printing font on the label and the slab itself has all of the characteristics of the green PCGS 5 slab/label.

I have seen just a couple of the PCGS 5.5(pending) slab/labels and presently believe I have one or two of them. All of the ones I have seen have the numbers which represents that they were graded at a coin show by PCGS. I believe PCGS started to use the new blue paper labels at the show but used the old labeling program and also must have had a few of the old plastic slabs side with the gold colored foil lettering and gold hologram to use up.

So PCGS unintentionally put together a transitional slab?

I will pull out my slabs to double check.


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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oreville - You know you're crazy, right?
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MrEureka:

    Time spent on these things means time spent NOT spending $$. image
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    << <i>MrEureka:

    Time spent on these things means time spent NOT spending $$. image >>

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Time spent on these things means time spent NOT spending $$.

    Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're not crazy!
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I pulled out the first PCGS 5.5 from my safe deposit box and it is a 1983 DDR 1c in MS-66RD.

    It is definitely the blue paper stock used in the PCGS 6 slab but inside the PCGS 5 slab along with the PCGS 5 font style.

    We have seen PCGS 4 slabs in blue but that is because the insert lost the yellow pigment to cause the insert 's color turn from green to blue. Other PCGS 4 slabs lose the blue pigment to cause the insert's color to turn yellow. So those are not a variety of slab.

    I will investigate further with PCGS.


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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    or it could be the fake slab font 6.47938345
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    joebb21: Good point, but I do not think so. I bought this slab back in 2000, long before the fake PCGS slabs began to surface.
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    << <i>joebb21: Good point, but I do not think so. I bought this slab back in 2000, long before the fake PCGS slabs began to surface. >>



    How come no photos? Every thread could use some phots image
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    UPDATE!!!!

    I took a photo of my slab and will post it tonight. The serial number is #9652379.

    Interesting that Heritage has a # 9652381 details (same date/mm and grade!!!) and pics below!

    It must be from the same submission and yes, possibly mine was purchased in 2001, not 2000.

    Mine is absolutely BLUE. This picture looks like it is halfway between blue and green but I am sure it is blue comparing it to other OGH of the same era and the same auction by Heritage.

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    This lot and the very next lot. There is a definite difference.

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    1983 1C DBLD DIE, RD
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These look like a submission from one submitter back in 1998. All of these are possibly made with the blue insert.

    #9652377 That Cert is not available for display
    #9652378 1983 1C Doubled Die Reverse MS66RD (probably beginning of submission)
    #9652379 1983 1C Doubled Die Reverse MS66RD
    #9652380 1983 1C Doubled Die Reverse MS66RD
    #9652381 That Cert is not available for display (but see the 2001 Heritage auction showing that 1983 DDR MS66RD)
    #9652382 1983 1C Doubled Die Reverse MS65RD
    #9652383 1984 1C Doubled Die Obverse MS66RD
    #9652384 1984 1C Doubled Die Obverse MS64RD
    #9652385 That Cert is not available for display
    #9652386 1984 1C Doubled Die Obverse MS65RD
    #9652387 1984 1C Doubled Die Obverse MS66RD
    #9652388 1984 1C Doubled Die Obverse MS66RD
    #9652389 That Cert is not available for display.
    #9652390 1984 1C Doubled Die Obverse MS66RD
    #9652391 1984 1C Doubled Die Obverse MS65RD (possibly end of submission)
    #9652392 That Cert is not available for display.
    #9652393 That Cert is not available for display.
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    rare1rare1 Posts: 47 ✭✭
    you need to get out more!
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    has anyone discovered any more of these?
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    DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Are you sure this isn't just a non-color fast label?

    After all, that's why we have "yellow" labels.

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DaveG,

    For this to have been a non color-fast label, PCGS would have had to save some of their older and small non color-fast labels used 3-4 years before OR accidentally had some laying around from then and then accidentally used them in the fall of 1998.

    That would be similar to the US Mint having some copper planchets laying around in the hopper leftover from 1942 and accidentally creating some 1943 copper cents.

    Your theory has possibilities.

    In fact it may even add even more intrigue to the history of these labels as I was under the impression that PCGS made a concerted effort to discard all non color-fast labels from their stock of paper labels.
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