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Frosty edges?

Card looks really nice for a 3. Edges of the case look frosty.

1953 Mantle PSA 3

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  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    I know this much- the seller's mom is Lezlie Dreyfus
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    that card is a reprint..
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    I couldn't find any overly obvious red flags. What always concerns me, though, is a 1st time seller (all 27 feedbacks are as a buyer) that uses the phrase "I HAVE HAD THIS CARD IN MY COLLECTION". Why is it necessary to tell anyone this info? It has the same undertone as the phrase "MY DEAD UNCLE LEFT ME THE CARD".

    The seller's ID is a bit bothersome too. Seems like a young seller that's been on a heavy buying spree after a 7 month hiatus. Maybe trying to get some fast cash to pay for some of it now.

    Who knows? I hope everything goes smoothly for the buyer of that '53 Mantle. Not a bad price @ $560.01.

    PoppaJ

  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭


    << <i>that card is a reprint.. >>



    What causes you to believe this? As Kirk stated, it looks nice for a 3, but could be due to a crease or wrinkle. With the background, can't tell if the edges are frosted.
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  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    I think the top and both sides look frosty but I cant tell for sure due to the white background.
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    i OWNED A REPRINT OF THis card when I first got back into collecting..
    and took a bath on it.. they have a grainy appearance and a redish tint
  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the top and both sides look frosty but I cant tell for sure due to the white background. >>



    After looking closer, the top and sides do appear frosty
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  • Bottom line here is PSA needs to make new holders NON TAMPER PROOF sort of like Becketts.
  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070


    << <i>Bottom line here is PSA needs to make new holders NON TAMPER PROOF sort of like Becketts. >>



    Wouldn't non tamper proof mean people could get into them? lol
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    image

    They need super tamper allowable cases so we can rest easier thinking we got a great deal
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    The Mantle slab looks like it has been tampered.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Bottom line here is PSA needs to make new holders NON TAMPER PROOF sort of like Becketts. >>



    Wouldn't non tamper proof mean people could get into them? lol >>



    LOL yeah sorry
  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭
    All these questionable cards in questionable PSA holders has made me think twice about purchasing a PSA slabbed card. I feel that unless I can be 100% sure that a slab has not been tampered with I cannot purchase that card. It seems there is a real issue with PSA slabs right now and I just cannot spend good money and possible get ripped off. PSA needs to listen to its customers here and make some changes to the slab that shows evidense of tampering.
    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Could it possibly be something as simple as adding some more welds to the slab?


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    One other point, a 3 goes for what? 600.00?

    So this one is no deal as it is already around that mark.


    Too much downside for me.

    I have no idea if it is real or a reprint.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That card looks too nice to be a PSA 3. I expect we will be having more these type of threads. Scams like this seem to come in waves.

    It's actually a pretty good idea to go after low/mid grade cards. Most buyers wouldn't suspect a scam for a lower end card.
    Mike
  • ArchStantonArchStanton Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭
    I am 100% certain this case was cracked. Do the edges look frosty?

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Since there might be almost 10-million slabbed cards in circulation - and it
    took almost 20-years to hit that number - a holder redesign will have about

    ZERO

    effect on the problem.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818


  • << <i>Since there might be almost 10-million slabbed cards in circulation - and it
    took almost 20-years to hit that number - a holder redesign will have about

    ZERO

    effect on the problem. >>



    Well that's not really true.

    ONE way would be you could trust cards in the new holders.

    As it is now, if you want a PSA card, you're always taking some risk.


  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070


    << <i>

    << <i>Since there might be almost 10-million slabbed cards in circulation - and it
    took almost 20-years to hit that number - a holder redesign will have about

    ZERO

    effect on the problem. >>



    Well that's not really true.

    ONE way would be you could trust cards in the new holders.

    As it is now, if you want a PSA card, you're always taking some risk. >>



    Yeah, I gotta watch out for that shady '87 Topps Jim Beattie...
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    I agree..new holders would have an effect on NEWER slabs being more trustworthy. PSA could also offer a reholder service for the new slabs at a few bux each and make a fortune......FORTUNE!!!! Did ya hear that PSA? A new money maker.....new slabs should be arriving soon after that statement
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...PSA could also offer a reholder service for the new slabs at a few bux each and make a fortune......"

    ///////////////////////

    Since the slabs are not free AND workers have to be paid
    to slab cards, I don't see how the "fortune" is made.

    Especially, since almost NOBODY is going to pay to have
    their cards reslabbed.

    ANY holder - maybe not the doorstops at Beckett - is easily tampered,
    and can be counterfeited. A new PSA holder would be no exception.

    .................

    Readers of this board - and others - have had FULL and COMPLETE
    access to the relevant security-info for SEVERAL YEARS.

    While it is NOT OK to cheat folks who did not do their homework, at
    least some due diligence needs to be done by folks who are going
    to participate in ANY hobby.

    I really do NOT want to pay a few dollars more to get a card graded
    so that folks who don't do their own DD can "feel" secure.

    And, "feel" would be the right word.

    A new holder will likely have NO impact on previously slabbed cards.

    Does anybody really think folks are going to reslab millions of cards?

    How long would it take for sophisticated crooks to figure out how to
    tamper/counterfeit the new holders? Not long, I suspect.

    The benefit, if it ever showed itself, would be seen a decade or more
    down the road. THAT delivers us NO help NOW.

    ................



    Civil actions and criminal charges are the way to hamper the fraudsters.

    VeRO is the best/fastest/cheapest path to getting that job done.

    ............................................


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • This is why PSA should come out with a better tamper proof slab.....How many threads on ANY collecting site do you see someone questioning a BGS graded card?
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    "...How many threads on ANY collecting site do you see someone questioning a BGS graded card? .."

    //////////////////////////////////////////

    The grading is sometimes questioned.

    Their slabs are kinda neat looking if you only have a few, but
    they are too big, I think, if you have TONS of cards.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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