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EBay Slumps After Growth Plan Takes Toll on Profit (Update2)

By Joseph Galante

Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- EBay Inc., the most visited U.S. e- commerce site, slumped in Nasdaq trading after a shift to faster-growing yet lower-margin businesses hampered its profit forecast.

Excluding some costs, fourth-quarter earnings will be 38 cents to 40 cents a share, the San Jose, California-based company said yesterday. The midpoint of that range missed the 40 cents predicted by analysts in a Bloomberg survey.

Chief Executive Officer John Donahoe, who took over last year, is steering EBay toward fixed-price sales and away from its former hallmark of auctions. He’s also building up the company’s PayPal and Bill Me Later payment services, which carry lower profit margins. And EBay is offloading its Skype Internet- phone unit -- a move that will hurt profit this quarter -- because the business doesn’t fit with the rest of the company.

“People are just looking at the earnings guidance for the fourth quarter, which is a little below the Street’s expectations,” said Aaron Kessler, an analyst at Kaufman Bros. in San Francisco. He recommends buying the shares and doesn’t own any. “They’re heading in the right direction. It’s not going to be an easy road.”

EBay fell $1.06, or 4.2 percent, to $23.97 at 4 p.m. New York time on the Nasdaq Stock Market. The shares have gained 72 percent this year.

Skype Breakup

EBay’s forecast didn’t include a full quarter’s worth of results from Skype, a business that lets users place calls over the Internet. The company expects to complete the sale of Skype about halfway through the quarter.

Third-quarter net income declined 29 percent to $349.7 million, or 27 cents a share, from $492.2 million, or 38 cents, a year earlier. Sales rose to $2.24 billion, topping estimates of $2.14 billion. Excluding some items, earnings were 38 cents a share, compared with the 37 cents predicted by analysts.

Sales this quarter will be $2.2 billion to $2.3 billion, EBay said. Analysts had projected $2.26 billion.

EBay’s Marketplaces unit, which includes its main site, StubHub and Shopping.com, grew 4 percent last quarter, excluding currency fluctuations. That likely outpaced the broader e- commerce market, Donahoe said.

“We’re seeing progress on our turnaround,” he said in an interview. “People are buying with more frequency on EBay than in the market.”

Forrester Research Inc. predicts that total online sales in the U.S. will expand 13 percent next year and 10 percent in 2011.

Comeback Plan

EBay’s turnaround plan has included changing listing fees and fighting fraud. The company also has revamped its search feature to make it easier to find items.

This month, EBay said it would eliminate about 60 workers. It also announced plans in May to close a 700-person customer- service office in Vancouver.

While EBay attracts more visitors than any other U.S. e- commerce site, it has lost customers to Amazon.com Inc., the world’s largest online retailer. The shift toward fixed-price transactions is an effort to tap faster-growing markets.

EBay is selling Skype to a group of investors led by private-equity firm Silver Lake. EBay had originally planned to spin off Skype as an initial public offering, saying the business had little synergy with the parent company.

Skype’s revenue rose 29 percent to $185.2 million last quarter. The service added 40.3 million users in the period and now has more than 520.8 million in total.

Excluding Skype’s 13-cent per-share contribution to earnings, EBay’s profit for the full year will be $1.41 to $1.43, the company said.

Revenue at EBay’s payments business advanced 15 percent to $688.1 million last quarter. Active accounts rose 19 percent to 78 million as the service began working with more Web sites.

PayPal competes with Discover Financial Services and Visa Inc., as well as smaller companies such as Obopay Inc. EBay expects PayPal to eventually become its biggest business, with revenue reaching $5 billion by 2011.

To contact the reporter on this story: Joseph Galante in San Francisco at jgalante3@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: October 22, 2009 16:10 EDT

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Comments

  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    Back in '02 my Gramps passed away and I was left with $10,000 from him. At the time, Amazon was $8/share and they hadn't made money yet. I thought "I should just buy everything I can because when they make a profit, it's going to go through the roof." Of course, I was young and dumb and didn't do it...
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    "EBay’s turnaround plan has included changing listing fees and fighting fraud."

    I can suggest a good place to start.
  • Im sorry but i hope they loose alot more, until they realize it isnt just the buyers who should have total control over sellers and have it back to the mid point to where sellers can defend themselves from shady buyers, they took that all away when they redid the feedback system among other whoa's for sellers, just my honest opinion.,,,bj
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  • << <i>This month, EBay said it would eliminate about 60 workers. It also announced plans in May to close a 700-person customer- service office in Vancouver. >>


    Oh, that should make everything run a lot smoother. image
    "It's not so important who starts the game but who finishes it."
    - John Wooden
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Im sorry but i hope they loose alot more, until they realize it isnt just the buyers who should have total control over sellers and have it back to the mid point to where sellers can defend themselves from shady buyers, they took that all away when they redid the feedback system among other whoa's for sellers, just my honest opinion.,,,bj >>



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    Shoppers have spoken; JD heard them, and he has ZERO chance
    of displacing AMZN. He won't even get his fair share of the pie.

    THAT may be a good thing for collectible buyers/sellers.

    After JD is out the door - with his $30-million+ parachute - it is
    possible that EBAY will reconnect with its roots:

    Used merch trading between cautious and aware buyers/sellers.

    The CL-model works and LOTS of folks inside of EBAY know that.

    The current scheme that puts ALL sellers at risk of being STOLEN
    from by corrupt buyers, was ONLY implemented as a weapon to
    compete with AMZN. When it becomes absolutely OBVIOUS to
    everybody that the EBAY vs. AMZN war is LOST, EBAY's anti-seller
    policies can be easiliy unwound.

    PayPal and other payment platforms are the economic future of
    EBAY. They have NO future in mass-retailing of NEW merch.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    "After JD is out the door - with his $30-million+ parachute - it is
    possible that EBAY will reconnect with its roots:

    Used merch trading between cautious and aware buyers/sellers."



    That type of sale helped them to get to the "top", but today anything outside the small window of "cautious and aware" has to cost Ebay a lot headaches and money to watch over.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"After JD is out the door - with his $30-million+ parachute - it is
    possible that EBAY will reconnect with its roots:

    Used merch trading between cautious and aware buyers/sellers."

    That type of sale helped them to get to the "top", but today anything outside the small window of "cautious and aware" has to cost Ebay a lot headaches and money to watch over. >>



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    Fraudulent SNAD-claims are killing - have killed - many categories.

    Once SNAD-claims are moved to the credit-card companies - away
    from PayPal - EBAY can get back to being the ONLY thing it is fit to
    be. A used-item venue.

    Currently, on sales outside of EBAY, PayPal is a dream to use. Soon,
    I suspect it will be on EBAY, too.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    I really don't know anyone who shops on ebay unless they collect something, and most people I know shop online fairly often.

    When I shop online for non-cardboard related items, I look at costco.com, walmart.com, etc....I don't even bother with ebay or amazon. I also can't see ebay ever becoming a popular marketplace for new goods.

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