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In one hour I am going to post something very special on the board........HERE IT IS.

Stay tuned..........
Ron Burgundy

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  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    Does this have something to do with your change in focus regarding the hobby??? image
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    I will only say that this item has gotten my attention.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
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  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're from the future!!!!! I knew it. Tell me something good. When do we discover Atlantis, and what does it look like?
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  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    image
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    Wait for it.....
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    I already lost interest. Why can't this thread be about fake Jeter autos, Pujols or breaking news that is sooooo five years ago.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
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    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Very Nice Ron!!!
  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    A very fine looking card, but aren't you selling a '55T Clemente in this grade? Or is this the same card?
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Hi Ron,

    Great looking card!

    Worth the wait, indeed!

    PoppaJ imageimage
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Don,


    This IS the Clemente. I purposely said PM for price because I don't know what to do with it. I'm torn between keeping it and selling it. If I keep it, I'll have to sell a heckuva lot more stuff, which brings me to this:

    If the choice is between keeping this card, or selling near complete or complete sets from the late 60's and 70's plus some other graded HOF cards, low pops, etc. what would be your vote on what to do? I'm not doing this set, but is this a "cornerstone of the collection" kind of card? When I say that, I mean the card, not necessarily the grade. And speaking of the grade, what are everyone's thoughts on that?

    These questions are why I posted it here, for discussion. (not for spam BST purposes). Thanks in advance.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭
    NICE!

    P.S. How much for the white strand of cat hair to the left???

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    That card looks like a reprint, it is so clean. What do you think it would bring?
  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    It's a beautiful card and would definitely be a cornerstone piece of most collections. If the sets and partials that you are thinking of sellling are ones that you simply acquired, I would move those and keep the Clemente. However...if those are sets that you have built and upgraded over time, I would keep the sets. I know how much work it is to find and track down cards with great eye appeal to upgrade your sets over time. It would seem easier to eventually replace a single card, as nice as this one is, than to find and/or build sets that you are happy with again.

    As far as the grade, I think it is fair. Touch on the upper right, white print mark on the first "E" in Clemente, and a little bit O/C from T/B.
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭
    I've never been a fan of selling the bulk of your collection for one card. Most likely, after a year or two, you'll probably lose the thrill of looking at the card and wish you could enjoy the large volume of cards you got rid of. Just my two cents. However, if you're just dumping some duplicate sets, I'd say keep the Clemente.
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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    I like the grade where it is
    Very nice card
    I vote keep the Clemente
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    Hey Ron pm sent.
    Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    SPAM!

    No but seriously, I think it moved.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...And speaking of the grade, what are everyone's thoughts on that? ..."

    /////////////////////////////

    It's either correct OR a little generous.

    Market-Grading principles will continue to test the limits of
    centering-contributions to "eye appeal," until the pendulum
    swings the other way.

    I like that PSA fully discloses the scheme, but I don't like the
    trend toward liberally invoking its terms.

    Half-Point Grades:

    Cards that exhibit high-end qualities within each particular grade, between PSA Good 2 and PSA Mint 9, may achieve a half-point increase. While PSA graders will evaluate all of the attributes possessed by a card in order to determine if the card may be eligible, there will be a clear focus on centering.

    Generally speaking, a card must exhibit centering that is 5-10% better, at minimum, than the lowest % allowed within a particular grade. It is important to note that there may be cases where the overall strength of the card, such as the quality of the corners and print, will give the card the edge it needs despite the fact that it may exhibit only marginal centering for the grade. This is especially true for cards that find themselves within the bottom half of the PSA 1-10 scale.


    .................................

    IMV, the Clemente rookie card is a "centerpiece" to a Clemente collection.

    It would not be my choice as an "era centerpiece," but there is no rule that
    says I am correct.
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  • Under the circumstances that you present I would sell the Clemente. That is a beautiful card but its only one card and to think about selling near or complete sets and others cards would be enough for me to sell the Clemente card.
    Collecting 1955 Topps BB
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    As for selling sets or the Clemente, unfortunately, I would say the Clemente.

    You will always find another and probably in better condition. Putting together sets, on the other hand, takes a lot of time and even moreso to sell.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    No question. Sell the Clemente.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How much is a 7.5 Clemente worth? Sorry I'm too lazy to look up VCP. However, offhand it seems like the other cards you mentioned you'd need to sell would far exceed the value of a PSA 7.5 Clemente RC.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    I've got an idea. Give me the Clemente and problem solved.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I'll take the opposite view, I'd keep the Clemente RC and dump some other stuff.

    For these reasons:

    *Less storage space....it's much easier to store one card instead of an entire set.
    *It's also easier to liquidate one card if you need to quickly, as opposed to maybe hundreds.
    *It's one of the really major key Rookie cards of the 1950's and will always have strong demand. Partial sets from the late 1960's are common as mud.
    * I like the eye appeal.
    *If you have other low pop cards you would have to sell off, most low pop cards eventually become higher pops and the demand goes down. Take advantage of the low pop's while they are 'low'.
    *The Clemente RC value will remain pretty steady over the next decade. Who knows about the other stuff you may have to sell off in order to keep it.

    Just my two cents. By the way, sweet card.

  • No way man...

    you better start watchin your ass burgundy.



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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would sell the card if given the choice. You can much more easily replace one card later than you could a bunch of sets.
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  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Very interesting responses. I thought the majority of people would say keep the Clemente and sell the other stuff.

    A couple more details: most of the sets I have were built my me over the past few years. Some were acquired in bulk collection purchases and I built them from the best stuff in those lots, so it wasn't painstakingly done. The thought process on selling was, as cardbender said, late 60's and 70's stuff is a little easier to find than high grade Roberto RC's.

    VCP on the card is $3500-4000. I guess it all comes down to how much I like the card and whether I want it in my collection.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • KnopflerKnopfler Posts: 783 ✭✭✭
    Sell both. Take the money to Vegas. Put it all on one college football game. After you win, you can buy back both the sets and the Clemente! I cannot see any flaw or downside with this plan.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    Keep the Clemente. No matter what the economy/card market/etc. is doing, that card is always marketable. A high grade Don Mossi card may necessarily not be at that given time.
  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭✭
    Actually, there are 3 choices: (1) Sell the Clemente. (2) Sell the sets. (3) Keep both and forego doing whatever it is that you were going to do with the proceeds. Of course, (3) may not be an option depending on what that is.
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Very interesting responses. I thought the majority of people would say keep the Clemente and sell the other stuff.

    A couple more details: most of the sets I have were built my me over the past few years. Some were acquired in bulk collection purchases and I built them from the best stuff in those lots, so it wasn't painstakingly done. The thought process on selling was, as cardbender said, late 60's and 70's stuff is a little easier to find than high grade Roberto RC's.

    VCP on the card is $3500-4000. I guess it all comes down to how much I like the card and whether I want it in my collection. >>



    i say keep the clemente, you can always pick the other stuff back up quick enough but you now have a money in the bank HOF rookie in pretty high grade that looks great!! you can pick up early 70-late 60 sets and lots easy and cheap enough but you don't always want to plunk down the $$ to replace or pick up a hi-grade HOF card and you already have one. your right that would be a cornerstone of a collection whether your doing the set or not.

    just my .02
    thanks for sharing the card looks GREAT!!!
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    1955 Clemente is VERY hard to find centered.


    It's eye appeal IMO is pretty good.


    Steve

    Good for you.
  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sell the Clemente and pick up a centered 5 with a surface wrinkle on back of card.
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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Sorry Ron, I dont get to post this one too much

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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    I would say keep the sets if they have any personal value, if they are simply and investment you have I would say keep the Robby C.
  • Tedw9Tedw9 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭
    Keep Roberto. Nuff said. image
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  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    Maybe my math is flawed but if VCP is "only" $3-4000, how much other stuff do you think you'd have to sell to come up with that amount of money?. I don't see you needing to sell multiple 60s, 70s sets and other HOF rookies to reach that amount. Wouldn't just a couple take care of that?

  • Hey, the 7.5 looks 1/2 pt. better than the SGC 84... I'd keep the Clemente if it were me. I think it looks GROOVY.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Zep - good point. I wouldn't have to sell a lot, my 68's and 69's should take care of it. I've also got a handful of low pops and HOF'ers in 7's that I don't want anymore. I think if I have any sense about me, that's what I'll do. I think the grade is right, love the rough cut along the top, and it would fit in with the rest of the Roberto's I have.......57 PSA 8.5, 59 PSA 8, 61 PSA 8, 64 PSA 9, 65 PSA 8, 68 PSA 8, 69 PSA 8, 73 PSA 8.5, etc.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • In that case(since you have all the others) definitely keep it. Like someone else said, you can always build some decent sets from the 60s but it's not every day you'll find a PSA NM+ Clemente rookie. Stay classy...
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well there always is the option to skip food and paying one's bills! image
  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Arch Stanton has a 55 Clemente super cheap.

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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well there always is the option to skip food and paying one's bills! image >>



    See sig.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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