Jefferson Nickel errors
fesjr
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Curious.......I don't collect error coins, but I recently got several 60's Jefferson Nickels that all came from the same collection. They are labled as "Double Profile & Dome, Extra Step, Whiskers, etc." Are any of these error types of any interest? The coins themselves are BU and with magnification I can pick out the errors mentioned. I also have a 60-D that is labled "Phantom D" what is phantom about it? It looks normal to me. Any help is appreciated.
Fred Strauser
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Pictures are a bit of a problem right now but I will get some up when I get the opportunity.
The whiskers just look like like scratches or die cracks in the area of Jefferson's chin.
Is it an easy process to up load pictures, I'm fairly new to the site?
From Ken Potter
The so-called "Phantom D" variety was created by the Mint by grinding the Denver Mint Mark off the master hub and then using it to produce a master die for Philadelphia die production. Traces of the D remained on the master hub and were transferred to the master die and then to working hubs and further on to working dies. In general, the "Phantom D" wore off the tooling in short order and thus only shows on coins produced from earlier stages of the Philadelphia tooling.
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Second, even without the pictures, I highly doubt your coins would make much of a premium since these types of coins were mostly produced as a result of a mechanical doubling or an extremely worn die. I’d bet the majority of coins you have were minted in the 60’s when the master hub was well worn and the minting process wasn't very good.
I've seen alot of people who end up with these coins thinking they are worth something, or trying to sell them on the Bay for big money. The extra whiskers, doubled profile, doubled dome and even phantom D are coins sold to the unknowing individual so the seller makes money. Alot of these type of coins were put out there way back... hyped out and sold. The one's I've seen by people who know I collect these coins are usually in very old 2X2's. It's what I call the HSN for Jeffersons.
I do hope I'm completely wrong... but the sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach says... I'm right.
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<< <i>Thanks for the info.
Pictures are a bit of a problem right now but I will get some up when I get the opportunity.
The whiskers just look like like scratches or die cracks in the area of Jefferson's chin.
Is it an easy process to up load pictures, I'm fairly new to the site? >>
Would be pretty interesting if they were die cracks. As for uploading pictures I recommend uploading to a website such as Photobucket then linking the images here. Although CU has the convenience of uploading images they do have file size restrictions, which websites such as Photobucket do not. If you have any questions about the process feel free to PM me and I can give a more detailed information on the process of linking images to the message board as soon as I can.
And if Ken Potter says so... then it is.
Steve
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<< <i>The so-called "Phantom D" variety was created by the Mint by grinding the Denver Mint Mark off the master hub and then using it to produce a master die for Philadelphia die production. Traces of the D remained on the master hub and were transferred to the master die and then to working hubs and further on to working dies. In general, the "Phantom D" wore off the tooling in short order and thus only shows on coins produced from earlier stages of the Philadelphia tooling.
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I don't think this coin could be a phantom mint mark.
The years that have phantom mintmarks are years where they had mint marks on the master hubs, I believe that would be much later than 1960. A clue is that years that have RPMs are years where the MM is not on the master.
It must be something else, a weak mintmark, an RPM or a gouge or something like that since the coin is a 1960.
<< <i>Here is the link to figure out how to post pictures.
And if Ken Potter says so... then it is.
Steve >>
Two additional things to the OP (Open Poster) well make that 3.
First figure out how to turn on your PM (private message) icon.
And secondly, you really need to post more to your problem, similar to
nursing this thing along to get more reviews. lol Otherwise its going to
end up on page 9 before you know it.
Now post something, are you still with us?
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
If anything this mint mark is filled? Otherwise it seems normal.
The coins came out of a box at a flea market. Seven coins $1.99 to fill in some holes in my grand kids album.
I don't really think these coins are much of an oddity, they were just new types of errors to me.
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<< <i>Not really looking to make a killing.......just curious.
The coins came out of a box at a flea market. Seven coins $1.99 to fill in some holes in my grand kids album. >>
Curious.......I don't collect error coins, but I recently got several 60's Jefferson Nickels that all came from the same collection.
Why I was thinking that the errors came from a much larger collection, possibly assembled by a serious collector is beyond me. For certain, there are error collectors but if there's a main collection then collecting errors becomes secondary until the next big coin for the main set comes along. Oh well, never mind.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection