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Ha Ha! Grade in on Quarterly Freebe.

FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
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In one short month, or so, this coin went from ANACS MS65FB.....

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....to genuine code 98 (Questionabl Color)

Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 15573889 4928 1920 10C US Genuine (91 - Questionable Color)

This one seals the deal with PCGS.

Ha Ha!

Ken

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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    it seals the deal in telling me that they don't like color right now.....
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    error
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you crack it or send it in as cross at any grade?
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is the coin I cracked and gave a quick dip. Maybe the dip put the questionable color on it....image Now I will have to crack it again just to sell it. The friggin color is real and not nearly as dark as my picture shows.

    Geez Louise...

    Ken
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is the coin I cracked and gave a quick dip. Maybe the dip put the questionable color on it....image Now I will have to crack it again just to sell it. The friggin color is real and not nearly as dark as my picture shows.

    Geez Louise...

    Ken >>



    Dip in Acetone?
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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had a 1913 type one buff come back with the same designation. This Buff by the way sat in a holder since 1978 at my fathers house, old Whitman folder, totally original, came back questionable. In fact to stop the toning I put it in a different holder 4 years ago. Still have that holder.

    What is the deal?

    Should I post a pic and get the members thoughts?
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I had a 1913 type one buff come back with the same designation. This Buff by the way sat in a holder since 1978 at my fathers house, old Whitman folder, totally original, came back questionable. In fact to stop the toning I put it in a different holder 4 years ago. Still have that holder.

    What is the deal?

    Should I post a pic and get the members thoughts? >>



    Love to see it!
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Dip in Acetone?"

    No.

    I used my secret dip formula that does have acetone in it. And then rinsed with acetone, water, acetone, water.

    Ken
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Should I post a pic and get the members thoughts?"

    Heck yes and put it right here in this thread. Then I will change the title of this thread to " Oregon Boys only have Questionable Color Coins"

    Geez Louise...

    Ken
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When a coin, naturally, tones in that blotchy, streaky fashion does that say it's been
    messed with prior to the toning? Does that indicate some underlying previous, devious
    attempt to "alter" the coin and thus causing that streaky pattern?
    Don't know, just trying to figure it out myself.

    bob
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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>it seals the deal in telling me that they don't like color right now..... >>


    Not so...they don't like attractive color!
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    phehpheh Posts: 1,588 ✭
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>



    Now thats funny. Thanks for the good laugh. Thats two I have had today on this site.

    Ken
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Dip in Acetone?"

    No.

    I used my secret dip formula that does have acetone in it. And then rinsed with acetone, water, acetone, water.

    Ken >>



    Maybe they smelled your special sauce image
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When a coin, naturally, tones in that blotchy, streaky fashion does that say it's been
    messed with prior to the toning? Does that indicate some underlying previous, devious
    attempt to "alter" the coin and thus causing that streaky pattern?
    Don't know, just trying to figure it out myself.

    bob >>



    I have no answer for your question. What I will say is the coin below graded about 8 months ago.

    image

    This one also.

    image

    Ken
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭
    So: the bottom line is that a coin you messed with did not grade at PCGS?

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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So: the bottom line is that a coin you messed with did not grade at PCGS?

    image >>



    The bottom line is the coin I dipped did not grade. "Messing With" and a "Quick dip" are different creatures for sure. If I messed with the coin do you really think this thread would have been started?

    BTW both of the coins shown a few posts back were lightly dipped also. Those messed with coins graded 6 to 8 months ago.

    Ken
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    AmigoAmigo Posts: 966 ✭

    Gee Louis is right. I don't understand it.
    Personally, I'm not going to bother sending any toned coins to pcgs.......... I think they're out to punish everyone along with the Doctors
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    InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭


    << <i>image >>



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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    I've felt the pain on more than one occasion myself. image
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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    They just want you to send it back and pay for it this time, or next time, or the time after that...

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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like things have gone image

    GC

    That's Genuine Crazy for all you 1/2 awake guys out thereimage
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They just want you to send it back and pay for it this time, or next time, or the time after that...

    Heck it was 20 bucks this time. 5 bucks to get it there and 15 bucks to get it back. Hmmm...... Same miles and value.......Hmmm

    Tony read my sig line. Thats it, All done and I am sticking to it.

    Ken
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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Bummer!

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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Secret dip formula!?!? image

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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    here it is, came back questionable color.....

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fairlaneman: You are overreacting. Sometimes you will get strange results even from PCGS. We all do.

    I will bet that even homerunhall got a few doozers results himself in the early years.

    As far as your 1920 dime why didn't you simply cross it to PCGS while it was still in the ANACS slab? That would have been the safe approach?
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    RMLTM79RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>



    I don't post much but this cracked me up!!
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    SeaEagleCoinsSeaEagleCoins Posts: 3,262 ✭
    All I can say is...

    It is called "submission" for a reason...

    If you decide to become "submissive", you must accept what the "dominitrix" dishes out...

    There is agony and there is ecstacy...

    Sometimes it's delicious and other times it tastes like crap...

    So drink up my fellow collectors and dealers alike... the kool aid runs (constant but not free...except once every quarter image )... and there is plenty enough to go around... so drink another toast and try, try again... image



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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "As far as your 1920 dime why didn't you simply cross it to PCGS while it was still in the ANACS slab? That would have been the safe approach?"

    If the coin would have been left in the ANACS slab it would not have crossed at all. It was and still is not a 65FB coin and I knew that. All that was wanted was for the coin to be in the correct slab with the correct grade. The intention was to keep some other collector from paying MS65FB money, somewhere over 400 bucks, for a coin that is really worth 100 to 150. I had success doing this. Now the coin is worth 50 bucks or so in the genuine holder. Success is not always what it is cracked up to be.

    As far as sometimes just not getting the number you want I understand this happens. Up untill 6 to 8 months ago I could see where the PCGS grades, both good and bad, were coming from. During this later period, which coincides with genuine slabs, I have been shaking my head in complete wonderment. I do not think it is a overreaction.

    Ken
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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭


    << <i>This is the coin I cracked and gave a quick dip. Maybe the dip put the questionable color on it....image Now I will have to crack it again just to sell it. The friggin color is real and not nearly as dark as my picture shows.

    Geez Louise...

    Ken >>




    Crack and dip kills coins
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my opinion the coin in the OP in not a 100% no brainer NT. I believe there is some question as the the toning. Enough to warrant a no grade? I dont know.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So does that mean you will start submitting ATS????

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