Crossover success.... and failure. Indian Head Avatar Coin

Coppercolor

Interesting study between grading services. With what feels like balls of ice cold steel I have submitted over 80 toned coins to PCGS.

I just checked online and they graded my two regular submission crossovers in just twelve days. My avatar was in an NGC 66RB holder and I've had it since the late 90's. It crossed into a PCGS 65BN holder.

I'm reservedly excited.... Very Very excited that a coin with big color into a PCGS holder at a time when PCGS is impossible. Even though I predicted a 65BN and that was my crossover minimum grade, I was secretly hoping for a 66BN (my favorite grading designation) or 66RB my second favorite. I predicted that the spot in the field below N of Cent would cause them to average the coin down to a brown, even though it's a strong 66RB with booming luster, great color, and one single tiny tick on the cheek of liberty, no others on the entire coin.

I was willing to take the hit on grade in order to get the best opinion on NT color in the marketplace, and get it into a PCGS holder.

The sad thing is that my 12-S did not cross. Hard to photograph but one of the most beautiful two-sided green toners I know, big luster and spooky. I don't know whether they were unsure of the color or if they thought it was a 63BN. I've had that coin since the mid-90's.

"Am I a fool" for wanting to cross?
Jeff

lusterlover

Before I comment, were those in NGC fatties?

kryptonitecomics

For imaging I would want the IHC in a PCGS holder.....as far as the grade is concerned....if I felt strongly that the coin was a 66 I would never cross it over to a 65 holder.....from what I can see.....the coin looks like a sold 66 but since I haven't seen it in hand I can't comment on why PCGS would give it a 65. I don't like their grading on IHC's ...proof or MS.....

66RB

I do no think you are 'a fool' for wanting to cross. These small coins look much better in the PCGS holder as they are not swallowed up like in an NGC holder. Also the PCGS guarantee is much better for copper coins.

I've seen that Indian cent in hand, and it is a knockout. I'm guessing that PCGS didn't like the spot on the reverse which is why they graded it 65. As far as the color, who knows...looks RB from here as it did in hand.

pheh

What is the 12-S graded by NGC?

ziggy29

One thing I will say for copper is that it is MUCH easier to image in the clear PCGS holder than with the white NGC inserts.

Just sent my first Platinum CC submission to the PO today -- 6 of my best raw IHCs, a 3CN and a Seated Dime. We'll see how we do in my first "direct" sip of the Kool-Aid...