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Opinions on raw pickup at local card show - BACK FROM GRADER (Scan added!)

I went to my first card show ever today. Found this beauty mixed in with a book of commons....I think the name threw them off (John?) because I don't believe this should have been mixed in with the commons. The sellers didn't seem that knowledgable on cards (selling someone elses collection, etc), and were fumbling through a Beckett trying to figure out what to charge. I didn't pay much for it, but I wanted opinions if everyone thinks this will grade or does it look trimmed?

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    Nice pick up.It looks like a solid 4.You payed less than $30 for it didn't you?
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    bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Yesssss....like I said....it was mixed in with commons.....
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    Thats a nice steal you got.
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    Scan of the back would help in regards to checking on the trimming... from the front, it doesn't look like it.
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    hahahaha ... looks like Honus is chewing some tobacco.

    nice pick up.
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    mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Bobby,
    I think its been trimmed on the top and both sides due to the "bunny ears". But its still a nice card.

    Kirk
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    RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    I don't like the upper right corner.
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    bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    The upper left corner is extremely sharp while the other 3 look normal. The corner looks almost too good to be true. Every time I have had an extremly sharp corner, the card comes back EOT.
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    mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bobby,
    I think its been trimmed on the top and both sides due to the "bunny ears". But its still a nice card.

    Kirk >>




    Kirk- I'm much less familiar with trimming b/c I'm not really into they types of vintage stuff that routinely gets trimmed. What does "bunny ears" mean?
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    AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Trimmed, but a nice card you probably only paid $5 for.
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    Just get that bad boy slabbed authentic. It is a nice addition to your collection either way.
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    gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    Assuming it is not trimmed, which it doesn't seem like it would be based on the story, what would it conservatively be worth?
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    SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    I know, Hun.

    The photo on this card makes me think that all of the hoopla around the "million dollar" Wagner may not be accurate.

    It's speculated that he pulled his image because he disapproved of tobacco; the photo on this card leads me to believe he pulled his image because he disapproved of the BRAND of tobacco!
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    calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I know, Hun.

    The photo on this card makes me think that all of the hoopla around the "million dollar" Wagner may not be accurate.

    It's speculated that he pulled his image because he disapproved of tobacco; the photo on this card leads me to believe he pulled his image because he disapproved of the BRAND of tobacco! >>



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    nice pickup, i hope its not trimmed. glad you got it at a good price
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I heard he disapproved of the amount of money he was to receive for having his likeness on a card.


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    bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Well...got the card back from SGC....I am a little disappointed in the grade, as I have seen worse corners on 4's & 5's! I guess the centering killed it....anyway, it's for sell and (as usual), I am the cheapest....
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well...got the card back from SGC....I am a little disappointed in the grade, as I have seen worse corners on 4's & 5's! I guess the centering killed it.... >>



    There's a pretty decent crease or stain(s) in there somewhere. The corners and the centering alone would have graded at least an SGC 60 (EX 5).
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    bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    No...no creases or staining....not that I can see....there is very mild staining (if that is what you call it), on the front....have seen similar staining on higher grade cards....because I have so little in it, I am selling it as is now.....plus I am not a fan of the crack and resubmit game.....
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    TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725


    << <i>It's speculated that he pulled his image because he disapproved of tobacco; the photo on this card leads me to believe he pulled his image because he disapproved of the BRAND of tobacco! >>



    I read the "Inside T206" link that 41GoudeyGuy posted the other day and in that it quoted Wagner's roommate, Erv Kantlehner, telling the San Jose Mercury News that:

    "Wagner's only bad habit is his love of chewing tobacco, but he detests cigarettes and does not smoke in any form. I have seen him refuse several checks of $1000 by cigarette companies who want to use his name."

    Inside T206
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    << <i>Well...got the card back from SGC....I am a little disappointed in the grade, as I have seen worse corners on 4's & 5's! I guess the centering killed it....anyway, it's for sell and (as usual), I am the cheapest....
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    Did SGC get more strict with centering? From my experience it has been the opposite
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