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1971 Baseball Cello Question

PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I've seen this seller offering several 1971 cello packs on ebay recently:

1971 Cello Auction

I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that this box is the 1972 cello box, not the 1971. I looked at my 1972 cello,
and the box is coded as 1972, meaning that is the year it was produced. How is it possible for a 1971 Cello Pack
to have a 1972 box? I can see if it were the other way around, but this perplexes me.

My 1972 Baseball and Wacky Pack Registry Sets

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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The box is fine. I have several of them that came from a partial cello box I purchased and they are exactly like that box. The right fold line doesn't look right to me though. I won't buy any ungraded packs off eBay unless it's from one of the very few reputable sources.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So what does it mean, 1971 Topps Cello packs were still being produced in early 1972? Again, the box is coded with an -2 extension,
    so that means it was produced in 1972.

    All of the 1971 cellos I have seen come in the box that says "30 Baseball Cards" on the front, I've only seen this box on the '72's.

    Again, with Topps anything is possible, I just don't understand it.
    My 1972 Baseball and Wacky Pack Registry Sets
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100% fake
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,838 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Resealed carp. No gum either, corner folds are a dead giveaway. If they were legit, he'd have sold these long ago to experienced collectors.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Before all you guys go off an tangent---clearly states in his auction---If you would like to see additional pictures email or call 772-370-8657----




    YOU LIE!!!--Sorry, didn't mean to go all racial on ya!!
  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Resealed carp. No gum either, corner folds are a dead giveaway. If they were legit, he'd have sold these long ago to experienced collectors. >>



    Plus the edges of the cards in the side pictures are not consistent with each card, should look like an untampered vending box stack of cards.

    P.S. Agree with Paul Maul (loved that wacky pack sticker), box is a 1972 box, here's a picture of a 71 box, John

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    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • proofer2proofer2 Posts: 186 ✭✭
    No good. He emailed me several other pics of that and other cellos he has. Folds are not uniform, and as someone else said, no gum. I have a cello box of 72's and the way the cellophane is folded is not the same.
  • summerof68summerof68 Posts: 748 ✭
    This guy has been listing these bad '71's on ebay for several months now and every now and then some unfortunate soul purchases one. Months back he had the audacity to list a '71 cello with Aaron on top and he made (stole) a bundle on it.

    Most likely he manufactures these packs by using 1983 fleer baseball cello wrappers from the "jumbo" rack--which incidently is the wrapper of choice used by counterfeiters to produce '70 thru '72 "jumbo" cellos.

    Grote is right, legit '71 bb cellos are very rare and extremely desireable with collectors and every visual aspect of this particular pack reads counterfeit. If I had this many legit '71's I would have them at PSA's doorstep as soon as possible!!
    "You tell 'em I'm coming...and hell's coming with me"--Wyatt Earp
  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    off the subject, but not really...

    1971 unopened packs are just the sexiest thing alive!!!

    I'm sorry but there isnt another years unopened material that makes me go gaga like 71's..


    Just awesome...
    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭


    << <i>off the subject, but not really...

    1971 unopened packs are just the sexiest thing alive!!!

    I'm sorry but there isnt another years unopened material that makes me go gaga like 71's..


    Just awesome... >>



    I second that emotion imageimageimageimage

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭


    << <i>off the subject, but not really...

    1971 unopened packs are just the sexiest thing alive!!!

    I'm sorry but there isnt another years unopened material that makes me go gaga like 71's..


    Just awesome... >>



    You gotta like a girl that goes gaga over unopened baseball packs. image

    Edit to add: Apparently the secret is '71s, since the '87 Fleer in my car during high school never got me anywhere!

    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭
    can't ignore the others (except hockey, never played it so don't collect it)

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    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    since we are playing show and tell....

    oh yea 71's would have gotten you far!!


    image
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    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭
    You win image

    I fold, all I have left in my hand is a pair LOL

    The rak on the left is a 1st series rak with Reggie Jackson and Willie McCovey showing on the bottom

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    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry about my earlier comment about the outer box looking ok. I should have checked mine before posting. Mine are indeed showing '30 cards'. The 1972 and 1971 boxes are the same color with the same player cartoon on them which is why I thought the box looked ok initially.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • minnesotahuskerminnesotahusker Posts: 642 ✭✭✭


    << <i>off the subject, but not really...

    1971 unopened packs are just the sexiest thing alive!!!

    I'm sorry but there isnt another years unopened material that makes me go gaga like 71's..


    Just awesome... >>





    Felicia,

    Your 1975s do it for me!!!
  • IJustLoveCardsIJustLoveCards Posts: 1,345
    no worries, I will be offering the unopened 75 cellos in a group rip soon as well as another box of 73's...


    Probably in a few weeks...


    Felicia
    The Link below will take you to the PSA Boards 1952 Set Build, I also have made 5 slideshows each slideshow is 100 cards long, card numbers 1-99,100-199,200-299,300-399, and 400-407
    Link To Scanned 1952 Topps Cards Set is now 90% Complete Plus Slideshows of the 52 Set
  • bziddybziddy Posts: 710 ✭✭✭
    So is there a list of people that can be trusted selling raw packs? (I know about BBCE, but that's about it).
  • summerof68summerof68 Posts: 748 ✭
    There are (two) types of (honest) vintage raw pack sellers you will come across on ebay:

    (1) Those sellers who (feel) their packs are legit but (don't) have the experience and expertise to make this determination.

    (2) And those sellers who (know) their packs are legit because they (do) have the experience and expertise to make this determination.

    What we as buyers need is a short list of those (honest) raw vintage pack sellers who possess the experience and expertise to determine the validity of a wax, cello or rack.

    But always keep in mind that even the best of the best will get fooled every now and then for there are some very sophisticated pack counterfeiters out there!

    "You tell 'em I'm coming...and hell's coming with me"--Wyatt Earp
  • daneybdaneyb Posts: 75


    << <i>no worries, I will be offering the unopened 75 cellos in a group rip soon as well as another box of 73's...


    Probably in a few weeks...


    Felicia >>



    What about a box of 71's lol I would take a few off your hands. I need a Rose to go with my Ryan.
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  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭


    << <i>no worries, I will be offering the unopened 75 cellos in a group rip soon as well as another box of 73's...


    Probably in a few weeks...


    Felicia >>



    Thanks for the warning. I guess I better start putting some funds aside!
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

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