Does anyone care that MJ is being inducted into the NBA Hall Of Fame today?
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Or is His Airness no longer an interesting topic of sports conversation?
IMHO Kobe has MJ like qualities, but has not dislodged MJ off of his perch at the top of the heap of NBA greats.
Unless Kobe kick things into gear and wins another 3-4 NBA titles during the next 5-8 years, Kobe will be not be considered MJ's equal or better.
Now Lebron James is one who, being 6-7 years younger than Kobe, could outdistance Kobe in the quest to supplant MJ (does anyone have the Kobe's career stats when he was LeBron's age and LeBron's career stats; comparing same would be interesting; as would comparing same with MJ's stats when MJ had the same # of years in the league as Kobe and LeBron [MJ went to college for three years, while Kobe and LeBron went to the NBA out of highschool]).
IMHO Kobe has MJ like qualities, but has not dislodged MJ off of his perch at the top of the heap of NBA greats.
Unless Kobe kick things into gear and wins another 3-4 NBA titles during the next 5-8 years, Kobe will be not be considered MJ's equal or better.
Now Lebron James is one who, being 6-7 years younger than Kobe, could outdistance Kobe in the quest to supplant MJ (does anyone have the Kobe's career stats when he was LeBron's age and LeBron's career stats; comparing same would be interesting; as would comparing same with MJ's stats when MJ had the same # of years in the league as Kobe and LeBron [MJ went to college for three years, while Kobe and LeBron went to the NBA out of highschool]).
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Steve
MJ was/is the best player to ever play in the NBA as far as Im concerned.
<< <i>He wasnt already in? I dont follow Basketball but seriously thought he was already in...
MJ was/is the best player to ever play in the NBA as far as Im concerned. >>
Playing for the Wizards delayed him getting in. At least that's what I'm guessing if the NBA does the 5 year thing like the NFL and MLB.
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<< <i>Unless Kobe kick things into gear and wins another 3-4 NBA titles during the next 5-8 years, Kobe will be not be considered MJ's equal or better. >>
That wouldn't even do it. He could win 50 more and still not supplant Jordan. I'm a total non-NBA fan, but MJ at least made me notice the game. Kobe just doesn't do that. That might not be the best way to measure greatness, but it does say something about Jordan's almost once-in-a-lifetime presence.
Guys like Iverson and Kobe Bryant who followed always want to take guys on one on one instead of working as a team.
Kobe can't win without other great players, MJ couldn't win without other great players.
I never liked the way the other four Bulls players cleared the side where Jordan would get the ball and let him go
one on one against someone. I know it was an effective strategy, but it kind of killed the team basketball that I enjoyed
growing up as a kid.
I think I can honestly say (no knock on MJ either), that MJ killed my affection for basketball. He turned the sport into
something that I really didn't like.
Many players of today love to go one on one, but they have not developed the skill to use their individual skills to make their teammates better.
Many players of earlier years also went one on one quite a lot, including Magic, Bird, Dr. J, Paul Westphal, David Thompson, Adrian Dantley, Mark Aguirre, Bob Cousy, John Havilcheck [SP?], Tom Chambers, Tiny Archibald, Elgin Baylor, Earl the Pearl Monroe, Clyde Frasier, Bernard King, etc., etc. Some used their individual skills within a team setting, making their teams and teammates better. Some were simply ball hogs.
I also dislike basketball which is not played as a team game. One on one [or 2-5] with other players standing around waiting the for star to do something great is boring. That plus the usual nail biter of a game where the last 2-3 minutes takes 25 minutes to play due to endless timeouts and ticky tack and/or hard fouls.
Fast breaking team basketball played at a high level [i.e. the Showtime Lakers of the 1980's and the Celtics of the 50's, 60's and early 70's; plus some women's pro hoops; plus some men's and women's D-1 college hoops] is a joy to watch.
Just my two cents.
By the way, that was probably the most enjoyable HOF speech I have ever watched. I won't elaborate on why...just watch it. It was fun.
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basketball had a hall of fame or where it is even located.
The birthplace of basketball......
Back to my silence.....
Steve
It is in Newport RI.
Steve
<< <i>Umm it is in Springfield Mass.
The birthplace of basketball......
Back to my silence.....
Steve >>
I knew where it was, most people probably don't or even care. The only ones that really matter to most
people are baseball and football.