Sending a $300 graded card to Canada - a board transaction, not EBAY

Mickey71 · September 4, 2009 5:40AM

A board member wants to buy my 66 PSA 8 Clemente. He is going to PAYPAL the money. This is a board transaction not EBAY. How do I send this and will his address be confirmed. Please help me out with sound advice. The member is a new member of the boards and I don't know him at all.

Thanks,
Mickey71

bbcemporium · September 4, 2009 5:48AM

<< A board member wants to buy my 66 PSA 8 Clemente. He is going to PAYPAL the money. This is a board transaction not EBAY. How do I send this and will his address be confirmed. Please help me out with sound advice. The member is a new member of the boards and I don't know him at all.

Thanks,
Mickey71 >>

I wouldn't worry if his address is confirmed. As long as he sends you the money, I don't see much risk for you in the transaction, just send it to the address he provided you.

mike92694 · September 4, 2009 5:49AM

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<< A board member wants to buy my 66 PSA 8 Clemente. He is going to PAYPAL the money. This is a board transaction not EBAY. How do I send this and will his address be confirmed. Please help me out with sound advice. The member is a new member of the boards and I don't know him at all.

Thanks,
Mickey71 >>

I wouldn't worry if his address is confirmed. As long as he sends you the money, I don't see much risk for you in the transaction, just send it to the address he provided you. >>

But what if the address is not confirmed?

jimq112 · September 4, 2009 5:52AM

Global express guaranteed is $28.76 for a large bubble mailer at 4 oz if you print the postage yourself. Online confirmation covers you with paypal and if you add the extra insurance )it comes with $100 insurance) then you're covered if it's "lost" somewhere along the way. Date certain delivery in 3 days or less.

Remember to list the full value when you ship it. Pay for the extra insurance.

Edit to add - remember that at over $250 you need signature confirmation.

bbcemporium · September 4, 2009 5:52AM

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<< A board member wants to buy my 66 PSA 8 Clemente. He is going to PAYPAL the money. This is a board transaction not EBAY. How do I send this and will his address be confirmed. Please help me out with sound advice. The member is a new member of the boards and I don't know him at all.

Thanks,
Mickey71 >>

I wouldn't worry if his address is confirmed. As long as he sends you the money, I don't see much risk for you in the transaction, just send it to the address he provided you. >>

But what if the address is not confirmed? >>

What is the risk if his address is not confirmed? I don't believe there is any buyer protection policy if it is an outside eBay transaction.

MinorLeagueSource · September 4, 2009 5:53AM

You must send the card with tracking or insurance to be covered. I would contact paypal to see there policy on non confirmed foreign payers.

storm888 · September 4, 2009 5:54AM

The addy does not have to be confirmed.

The seller's only PayPal obligation is to PROVE delivery.
(There are no SNAD awards in off-EBAY transactions.)

Express Mail International is the PayPal-bulletproof shipping
method to Canada. The insured cost will be about $35.

WinPitcher · September 4, 2009 5:54AM

The only problem that I see (since it is not an ebay sale) is if he pays with a CC.

Storm would know more.

Steve

storm888 · September 4, 2009 5:58AM

<< You must send the card with tracking or insurance to be covered.......... >>

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Proof of delivery is required.

EMI - and GEG - noted above are both fine with PayPal.

Do not waive the signature requirement; it is required by PP.

bbcemporium · September 4, 2009 5:59AM

<< The addy does not have to be confirmed.

The seller's only PayPal obligation is to PROVE delivery.
(There are no SNAD awards in off-EBAY transactions.)

Express Mail International is the PayPal-bulletproof shipping
method to Canada. The insured cost will be about $35. >>

Storm,
question for you. If the PP payment is categorized as something non-material, does the seller still have to prove delivery (obviously, if it is a "living expense" or "service", etc category, there is no shipping of goods)?

storm888 · September 4, 2009 6:07AM

"The only problem that I see (since it is not an ebay sale) is if he pays with a CC."

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ANY credit card payment is a "potential" chargeback; whether on/off EBAY.

PP can only award on an INR-claim, off-EBAY.

The CC-issuer can award on INR and SNAD.

Walt · September 4, 2009 6:11AM

You can ship to Seattle with delivery conf for 75 cents but it will cost you 28 dollars to ship it a few miles up the road to Canada. I just don't sell anything to
Canada anymore unless the buyer will pay for shipping or pays me with an international money order.

onebamafan · September 4, 2009 6:14AM

Spend the $30 for insured tracking. It is the only way to go to Canada.

storm888 · September 4, 2009 6:20AM

"...If the PP payment is categorized as something non-material, does the seller still have to prove delivery (obviously, if it is a "living expense" or "service", etc category, there is no shipping of goods)?..."

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Just tab your PP-generated request for payment as "service" or "non-merch."

PP is then out of the mix, unless unauthorized use is claimed.

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A CC-issuer can still award a CB for "nonperformance;" or, "unsatisfactory service,"
if the cardholder resides within 50 or 100 miles of the service vendor. (Some high-end
cards have additional coverage that may waive the mileage limit.)

Mickey71 · September 4, 2009 7:39AM

Okay, let me get this straight. It will cost nearly $30. The deal had basically been done and the oh by the way email ===I live in Canada--Do you ship there? I don't think I'm doing this as I was going to ship for free until he said Canada. Now I have to ask a dumb puzzling question==Why is this so costly and confusing? I don't think it would cost me $30 to drive to Canada.
Mickey71

storm888 · September 4, 2009 8:17AM

"......Why is this so costly and confusing?....."

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Cuz you requested "sound advice," I guess.

The problem is PayPal. They require SigCon to prove delivery on the subject item.

EMI and GEG furnish PP-acceptable proof of delivery.

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If the buyer trusts you, ask him to send you an International Money Order.

You can then use Priority Mail and buy insurance; less expensive.

WinPitcher · September 4, 2009 8:49AM

It is so costly because that is what the Post Office charges if you want that specific service.

Steve

jimq112 · September 4, 2009 8:50AM

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EMI and GEG furnish PP-acceptable proof of delivery.

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I suggested GEG because as far as I know the actual delivery is done by fedex, and I have more faith in fedex drivers than I do in some of the mail carriers in Canada. I'm sure there are plenty of good ones, but I've heard about a lot of the bad ones.

WinPitcher · September 4, 2009 8:55AM

Since the buyer pulled the 'old by the way I live in Canada" I too would demand payment with an international mo.

I'd say, 'by the way I accept International MO's on this type of sale'

Steve

Mickey71 · September 4, 2009 9:10AM

He just PMed me that he has a U.S. address also. I said if it's confirmed---go ahead. I don't do many deals on the boards but some have been a little too memorable for me. Quite honestly, there's a member who posts on here that is a major scam waiting to happen. he actually posts more regularly lately.

WinPitcher · September 4, 2009 9:11AM

Yeah I heard he got kicked out of Sweden.

Steve

storm888 · September 4, 2009 9:32AM

There is no confirmed addy requirement.

"Proof of Delivery" is the only extra challenge that Canadian transactions entail.

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Basic Requirements:

•Ship the item to the shipping address on the “Transaction Details” page.

•The item must be a physical, tangible good that can be shipped.

•Your primary residence, as listed in your PayPal Account, must be in the United States.

11.6 What is “Proof of Delivery”?

Online documentation from a shipping company that includes all of the following:

•The date the item is delivered.

•The recipient’s address, showing at least the city/state or zip code (or international equivalent).

•Signature Confirmation for payments of $ 250 USD or more.

MBMiller25 · September 4, 2009 9:36AM

<< Quite honestly, there's a member who posts on here that is a major scam waiting to happen >>

Just tell him to send his cards first. Trust me the deal comes to end REAL quick.

lsutigers1973 · September 4, 2009 11:38AM

<< Quite honestly, there's a member who posts on here that is a major scam waiting to happen. he actually posts more regularly lately. >>

And you have information to validate these claims? If so, you are leaving the window open for someone here to get scammed.

Sending a $300 graded card to Canada - a board transaction, not EBAY

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