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Do dealers even bother with a Whale who they know collects in a specialty outside of their area?

Let's take a Numismatic Whale as an example, such as Dan Holmes. He is in the news recently because of his spectacular collection of early copper. I don't know Mr. Holmes, but let's assume that he collected solely copper and nothing else.

Do dealers who do not sell or specialize in early copper even bother to speak to a Numismatic Whale such as this, because they assume he would have no interest in gold coins, for example? Or do the dealers make an attempt to get to know all Whales, because you never know when that Whale might need a coin that is outside of his primary collecting interest?
Always took candy from strangers
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)

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  • It depends, does the whale like Applebee's?
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It depends, does the whale like Applebee's? >>




    You can add that to the hypothetical, but I will not give you any credit on the final exam. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)


  • << <i>It depends, does the whale like Applebee's? >>




    I like Applebee's ... but I am just part of the Numismatic Hoi Polloi image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From observing the behavior of specialty dealers and specialty whales in the wild (namely at the FUN and ANA shows), the dealers often get to know the major, high profile collectors in all specialty areas. Perhaps there is a motive the someday woo them us customers, but most dealers I have known are genuinely interested in nice coins and nifty collections and probably get to know the whales largely for this reason.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would think any dealer that wanted to stay a dealer would forester good relationships with all the collectors that they came into contact with. Whales or minnows good customer service and relations go a long way in any business.
    Plus remember that most whales travel in pods and they are known to communicate with each other.
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  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    For those collectors who make all or most of the major shows, and have large collections(of any series), most dealers recognize them , and are quite congenial.

    It is more because they are regulars, rather than the future possibilty of any large sales.

    And it doesn't take Whale status. But is doesn't hurt that the collector regularly buys high end coins for big bucks
    TahoeDale
  • Most dealers who have been in business long enough come across almost all the major coin types at some point. Some will even have the opportunity to acquire collections that may have pieces that aren't in their specialty area. It would be useful to know which of the whales in the pod are most likely to be interested in the nicer pieces, that is, the pieces that are higher priced and generally not for the masses.

    The days of whaling on the high seas are past us now, thankfully. However, there are still rogue dealers who seek out the whales inhabiting bourse floors. Look behind their tables and sometimes you may see them if you are lucky, or unlucky as the case may be. Though they are rare they are still to be found. Just don't be the Whale who is doing the looking or you may find that rare item being aimed at yourself...yep, a Harpoon!
    Holes-in-One
    1. 7-17-81 Warrenton GC Driver 310 yards 7th Hole (Par 4)
    2. 5-22-99 Warrenton GC 6 iron 189 yards 10th Hole
    3. 7-23-99 Oak Meadow CC 5 iron 180 yards 17th Hole
    4. 9-19-99 Country Lake GC 6 iron 164 yards 15th Hole
    5. 8-30-09 Country Lake GC Driver 258 yards 17th Hole (Par 4)

    Collector of Barber Halves, Commems, MS64FBL Frankies, Full Step Jeffersons & Mint state Washington Quarters
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good to see a couple of the aforementioned Whales have chimed inimage
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dealers carry a wide variety of harpoons with them. Just call them Ahab.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • A serious collector is someone you want to stay in touch with. Even if they don't collect your specialty, you never know what they'll be collecting down the road.
  • 90% of all of you questions about dealers can be answered as follows.........


    All dealers will do what they perceive as is in their best interest.

    Some will do it better, some worse.

    Some will take a short term view...........others long term.

    You may or may not ever understand all of their actions or motivations.

    Live with it.................
  • KentuckyJKentuckyJ Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭

    What RYK said. I perceive most higher end dealers as being genuinely nice people interested in more than just bread and butter numismatics.
  • PonyExpress8PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
    Most dealers were collectors in the beginning and love beautiful coins, to study and appreciate. I love talking and learning all the time and I find I pick up a ton of information every time I speak to a high end collector. It doesn't matter to me if I don't specialize in what they do, because some day I may run across a piece that will fit in their collection.

    While most dealers have a market niche or segment niche, its always a pleasure to broaden one's experience and knowledge by knowing/talking to top collectors. It's a great way to grow your experiences.
    The End of the Line in the West.

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