1913 Liberty nickel counterfeits or altered?
Mtngran
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How common and how often do these coins show up? Does anyone know any history of alterations done to multiple nickels in the 1960's? The concensus seems to be that only 5 authentic ones were minted; however have there is one theory that the leather bound book that once with with 5 authentic and one other nickel still leaves the possibility that a 6th liberty head nickel might be around.
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There was a guy and his wife at the LA ANA walking the bourse showing select folks his 1913 liberty nickel! I saw it ,and it was a very good job. Probably it was Chinese made, who knows. He was handling it very carefully.
Anyone else see it?
Krueger
me a scan of the 'sixth' 1913 Liberty Nickel.
It had a big deep, hit (crater), right at the
left side of the last digit, which was a "0",
and the hit made it look like, to this guy,
at least, a "3".
Did he believe me when I told him about his
coin? I seriously doubt it........
<< <i>If a person found one of these coins that had been packed away for many years, what precautions would you recommend and how would you proceed to get the coin authenticated? There are local dealers in the area, but don't know anything about their expertise or qualifications or trustworthiness. >>
If I recall, the last one that surfaced had been kept in a closet. Try to find a closet though that does not have a light bulb so it doesn't get artificially toned.
i'm a cent guy!
<< <i>i have an original roll of them ...whats the big deal about them?
i'm a cent guy! >>
I used to have two "shotgun" rolls of them a long time ago; but I had to spend them to buy cigarettes.
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<< <i>i have an original roll of them ...whats the big deal about them?
i'm a cent guy! >>
I used to have two "shotgun" rolls of them a long time ago; but I had to spend them to buy cigarettes.
Those darn nickel slots in Vegas are mostly to blame for depleting the supply.
I'll be Mr. Drisdale.
I need volunteers for Jed, Jethro, Cousin Elly, her pet monkey, and Ms. Hathaway.
These forums are a great place to learn things.... you just need to be able to separate the wheat from the chaf.
<< <i>Please take my post in jest.
These forums are a great place to learn things.... you just need to be able to separate the wheat from the chaf. >>
Welcome to the forums, Mtn Granny; Likewise.....I was just havin' a little fun in my old age.
I can't shed any light on the subject of 1913 Liberty Nickels...the only Liberty Nickel we own was minted after that...
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Since you are new to the boards... all of the five 1913 Liberty nickels have been accounted for since 1920 (except for a period of 40 years 1963-2003 when Stack's couldn't tell the difference).
This coin, which was most likely made clandestinely by Samuel Brown when he worked at the Philly Mint in 1913, is one of the most "storied" coins in American numismatics.
It was popularized nationwide by Max Mehl in his publications back in the 1930's & 40s.
The case (not book) you mentioned, made by Col. EHR Green, (who is not really a Colonel) held a total of 8 coins, not 6. It still resides with Eric P. Newman who purchased all of them from the Green estate.
You won't have to worry about finding one. If you do, it is a counterfeit.
they should have long since been
confiscated and destroyed.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
<< <i>Considering how they came to be,
they should have long since been
confiscated and destroyed. >>
How did they come to be? I have never seen it written or said.
They should have been confiscated by the Government and
destroyed long ago because technically should not exist.
<< <i>I'm referring to the so called "authentic" pieces.
They should have been confiscated by the Government and
destroyed long ago because technically should not exist. >>
Agree. Like the 1933 Saints, they were never monetized. Definitely a product of the midnight minters.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I mean REALLY! Afterall, they really are Bootleg and if I had shelled out Major bucks for one I'd
be paranoid as all get out just waiting for it to happen!
If they ever catch a wild hair - Money GONE!!
The Long Beach Press-Telegram newspaper published a nice story, but only used the reverse side photo to illustrate it! Of course, we had many phone calls and visitors to the show saying they had a coin exactly like the nickel they saw in the paper, and wanting to sell it for envisioned millions.
I called the Photo Editor at the paper to ask why only the tail's side was used for an illustration and was told, "That's the side that says 'United States of America' and "five (V) cents." I briefly thought about giving the Photo Editor's phone number to all future "I've got one that looks just like it" callers....
Since then, whenever I'm helping to publicize a display of one or more 1913 Liberty nickels, I only send the news media a photo or JPG of the obverse. If a Photo Editor subsequently contacts me for the reverse image I promptly send it, but also politely and firmly explain that if they're going to illustrate only one side of this coin it must be the front because it's the date, 1913, that makes these coins so rare. I haven't had any additional problems, but you still encounter people who think a common, VG 1905 Liberty nickel must be more valuable simply because it's older.
-donn-
<< <i>As the others said...Welcome to the forums
I can't shed any light on the subject of 1913 Liberty Nickels...the only Liberty Nickel we own was minted after that...
I didn't think anyone ever saved any of the photoshop crap that i made!....LOL...i'm honored
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<< <i>I'm referring to the so called "authentic" pieces.
They should have been confiscated by the Government and
destroyed long ago because technically should not exist. >>
Agree. Like the 1933 Saints, they were never monetized. Definitely a product of the midnight minters. >>
No Liberty Nickel was ever monetized (nor was any Buffalo for that manner). They have nothing in common with the 1933 Saint unless you think they were officially minted.