Guess The Grade & Overton on this 1814 CBH...

DenverDave

So what says the board...?

TennesseeDave

Awesome,MS-64,do not have any idea of the O variety.

STONE

I'm going to be a little tighter and say MS-62+

Raybo

All I know is that, it's....................Beautiful!

LanLord

I don't know the ins and outs of these things in mint state, but I see nothing alarming about that coin (although I would like to see it darker).

What a pretty coin.

mozin

O-109 R2, normally found with clashes. Looks like a very pretty PCGS 58.

LanLord

<< <i>O-109 R2, normally found with clashes. Looks like a very pretty PCGS 58. >>



Wow, I am usually the bast@rd that usually goes with the low grade. I have more than a few PCGS58s that look no where near that nice.

What is your area of concern?

Goldbully

Great image, great coin, great toning, great lustre, great strike, great die cracks.....I love her!!!!

Oh and MS64!!!

HalfCollector

I agree with Mozin, AU-58. Rub on cheek and breast with full luster otherwise. A true 58 should look like a 63 with slight rub on high spots. the TPG many times put coins in 58 holders that donot deserve it.
Great coin by the way and should bring better than sheet AU-58 money.

zap1111

That's a stunning O-109, DenverDave!

I'm not rich enough to own coins this nice, so I have very limited experience here. I'd have to say that it'd be a shame if it wouldn't holder higher than 58.

Gorgeous. Thanks.

JRocco

The coin is showing some luster breaks/rub so it is not a MS piece, but is sure is a beauty.
A very nice high grade AU beauty.

crazyhounddog

I see zero circulation on this coin and it sure is a beauty! ms-64 and a shot at 65

jdillane

Trace rub no doubt but she's a beaut! AU58 for this saweeet slider!!

speety

My initial thought was a gorgeous 58 graded as MS-62.

My final thought - Wow

coinlieutenant

MS63

morgandollar1878

Looks like a 64 to me, and wow, what a killer CBH. I am finding myself picking my jaw up off the floor and rolling my tounge up and sticking it back in my mouth.

DenverDave

Thanks for all the great input....

Gold CAC...?

Bear

That must be the finest AU-50

CB Half in the universe.

Absolutely stunning.

morgandollar1878

<< <i>Thanks for all the great input....

Gold CAC...?

>>




You must be f&@#@* kidding me. I'm with Bear on this one. That is the best looking AU-50 I have ever seen

PCcoins

Screw the gold sticker, go for a crack out and a new pcgs ms62-63!!!!

WOW!

JungleFever

I'd definately have it graded again. I've seen worse in pcgs graded higher. JMO.

C0inCollect0r

Possibly the most absurdly undergraded PCGS coin I have ever seen...

TennesseeDave

Definately the best AU-50 on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jdillane

She makes a compelling argument that undergraded OGH's still remain.

Is there anything you see in hand that might explain what the graders were thinking? Hairlines, some muting to the luster or??

What grade would you assign to her?

DenverDave

I don't need no Skink'n Gold Sticker..."-)

There is a slight rub on the front of the cheek only, not very visible straight on but at an extreme angle at magnification it looks like a slide mark from an album. Other then that it has full booming luster, nice strike, color and a pedigree of Rutherford / Prouty...

I give it a AU59, "why not" it's more then a 58 and less then a 60...

crazyhounddog

<< <i>Thanks for all the great input....

Gold CAC...?

>>



Well I'll tell ya, I sure don't agree with that nonsense! No way AU-50...NO WAY!

lcoopie

you got some nice stars there

STONE

<< <i>I don't need no Skink'n Gold Sticker..."-)

There is a slight rub on the front of the cheek only, not very visible straight on but at an extreme angle at magnification it looks like a slide mark from an album. Other then that it has full booming luster, nice strike, color and a pedigree of Rutherford / Prouty...

I give it a AU59, "why not" it's more then a 58 and less then a 60... >>


I too saw the obvious slide/rub mark on the front of the cheek, but the coin is so devoid of rub anywhere else, not to mention full of luster,
that I just had to call her a 62 (better than a 62 with the absent of the slight rub on the cheek).

mozin

I would not send this coin to CAC in its present holder. The coin needs a PCGS grade review, or it needs to be submitted raw to PCGS. I hope you paid around AU50 money for it.

HalfCollector

I pulled out my Prouty catalog and looked the coin up. Sheridan gave it a quality rating of B- with notes: Brilliant with thin luster, Lightly Wiped. I trust Sheridan's judgment on these matters, therefore if he can see a lite wiping, I would be very careful if I cracked it out worried it may end up in a Genuine holder. I would send it in for a regrade but then if it does not grade higher, do you lose the OGH?

mozin

If Sheridan gave that description, keep the coin as it is. Pictures certainly don't tell all.

JRocco

<< <i>If Sheridan gave that description, keep the coin as it is. Pictures certainly don't tell all. >>



My thoughts exactly Mozin.

DenverDave

Well... We have had some highs and lows here, from MS64 to Genuine...

Perhaps he was referring to the break on the cheek as a wipe, since he dose not mention the break in his description...

All I ca say is that I wish half of my AU50+, 195 year old coins looked like this one but with a little more color...

Thanks for all the great input it has been very educational...