Presidential dollar varieties?

Dentuck

Which varieties in the Presidential dollar series do you consider "must haves" or "top ten" or otherwise especially significant for collectors?

19Lyds

<< <i>Which varieties in the Presidential dollar series do you consider "must haves" or "top ten" or otherwise especially significant for collectors? >>


First off, there are very few true Presidential Varities as most fall under the classification of being Mint Error coins.

For the Varieties question, relatively Simple friend. Just get one of each in Business Strike, Sating Finish and proof.

For the errors, I'd recommend the following:

Missing Edge Lettering 2007 Washington
Missing Edge Lettering 2007 Adams
Double Edge Lettering Overlapped 2007 Adams
Double Edge Lettering Inverted 2007 Adams

The Weak Edge Lettering and Partial Edge Lettering coins are available but IMO are the result of poorly calibrated or overworked edge lettering machines.

The Missing edge lettering Jefferson should also fall into the top ten but the coin has been soooooo over speculated that the prices are simply rediculous. I would never, ever consider purchasing one of those at today's prices as they'll for sure be money losers.

So, what you basically have are edge lettering error coins in missing, weak, partial or doubled across all manufacturing styles. After that, there's not really much there unless you get into the clips, double strucks and broadstrikes.

On the other hand, I believe that different lettering "styles" have been used through out the production cycle on the coins and feel confident that someday, someone will start cataloging these. I have observed Broad Lettering, Thin (single line) Lettering and Outlined Lettering all of which I think is impossible to produce from the same type of die.

The coins themselves are so uninspiring that only ultra high grades command true premiums whereas some of the lower population coins command inflated premiums based solely on the populations.

Dentuck

Lee, you don't consider the Missing Edge Lettering coins to be varieties?

MsMorrisine

what sbout the over-polished dies that show up on the reverse as so called "pez heads" ?

MsMorrisine

oh, and how about the misaligned edge lettering where the edge lettering in generally fully present but not where it should be? There have been some where portions have overlapped other portions.

dpoole

Definitely the missing edge detail specimens.

We have the vast number of plain-edge Washingtons.

But we have Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Jackson examples that have shown up thus far as well, in decreasing numbers as the Mint tries plaintively (and presumably) to minimize them with quality control. There are even plain-edge Sacagawea Native American specimens for this year.

This is a cool variety, again for the obvious and easily visible aspect, and for the opportunity to find these in pocket change (if they ever actually circulated and found their way to our pockets).

19Lyds

<< <i>Lee, you don't consider the Missing Edge Lettering coins to be varieties? >>



No. They are Mint Errors.

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As far as I know, there are NO Presidential Dollar "varieties" aside from the few DDR coins.

PCGS simply included these in the Complete and Major Presidential Dollar Variety Sets even though they are graded as Mint Errors. BTW, these are the ONLY Error Slabbed coins allowed in a Registry Set.

frnklnlvr

There is one known Washington rotated die and quite a few J. Adams rotated dies. I've found four different Adams rotated dies from searching rolls. These sell from about $200+.

Silverstate

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<< <i>PCGS simply included these in the Complete and Major Presidential Dollar Variety Sets even though they are graded as Mint Errors. BTW, these are the ONLY Error Slabbed coins allowed in a Registry Set. >>



These are varieties that have "Mint Error" on the top of the slabs and don't have an "E" in front of the PCGS #.
Lee, did make a point of cost difference to submit a "Mint Error" versus a "Variety" - $ 50 vs $ 34 each.

MsMorrisine

<< <i>There is one known Washington rotated die and quite a few J. Adams rotated dies. I've found four different Adams rotated dies from searching rolls. These sell from about $200+. >>



curses!

I've found not a one after loooong searches. I check all my dollars for even mildly rotated dies(to have an interest piece if for nothing else). nada one.

glad someone here has scored some.

TwoSides2aCoin

Variety is the spice of life, so every president should be collected. Then "position A" or "position B". Missing edge lettering is interesting, but it took Van Allen & Mallis to come up with VAM attributions long after the series ended. I think we put the cart before the horse in this race when we break it down before the actual errors and such are even discovered. So keep it simple

P,D,S for the book.

Humbly submitted, with respect to all men and women.
(since we might have a woman president some day)

19Lyds

<< <i>what sbout the over-polished dies that show up on the reverse as so called "pez heads" ? >>



Nope.

19Lyds

<< <i>oh, and how about the misaligned edge lettering where the edge lettering in generally fully present but not where it should be? There have been some where portions have overlapped other portions. >>



Nope.

19Lyds

<< <i>There is one known Washington rotated die and quite a few J. Adams rotated dies. I've found four different Adams rotated dies from searching rolls. These sell from about $200+. >>



Error coins, not varieties.

OAKSTAR

@Dentuck said:
Which varieties in the Presidential dollar series do you consider "must haves" or "top ten" or otherwise especially significant for collectors?

Washington Elongated Ray.

OAKSTAR

Well, I guess not. Never mind. 😂 🤣