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Do dealers get better grades than the general public???

Hello. Hopefully this will get some good responses. I have been sending cards in for that last litle while and have been told by several people that if I were to send my cards to PSA through a bigger dealer I would probably get better grades, less qualifiers etc. What's your thoughts on this. Could it be possible that dealers get special treatment or are all the submissions treated equally????

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  • cougar701cougar701 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
    Not sure if dealers do get a better grade then the general public... I can tell you that I have been seeing a lot of BCCG 10 cards coming out of 4 Sharp Corners lately. I have purchased a lot of cards from them in the past and saw plenty of PSA 9's instead of 10's as I'm sure they would prefer, and it makes me wonder if they are in disagreement with the grades they have been getting from PSA and now starting to send some things they think might be 9's to BCCG for a 10 instead.

    They are still using PSA, but maybe they are more closely inspecting their batches to go to PSA for a better percentage of 10's and the rest to BCCG for 10's there to cut down on expenses. They dont get as much money for a BCCG card as they would for a PSA, but possibly half the expense of grading.
  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would hope that is not the case. I do not believe PSA would want obviously overgraded cards in circulation. They are the market leader and need to protect their reputation. These big time dealers are professionals and probably pre-screen well and only send the cream of the crop. In fact many times on this board I've read advice on pre screening, looking over your sub, put it away and look again in a couple days, you may pull a few before you send it in. Some cards have great eye appeal but there may be a technical aspect that prevents a higher grade.
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  • ArchaninatorArchaninator Posts: 822 ✭✭✭
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  • PSA doesn't care whos name is on the submission, they look at each card and grade it on the merits of the card itself, using the strict card grading standards that are outlined in the SMR and here on the psa website.

    Any deviation from that thought process would just be wrong.
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  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭
    I have seen no evidence supporting such a theory. With no evidence, I have to say no.
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    All I can say about preferential treatment is they'd be stupid if they did.

    The line of reasoning is always "X dealer is very important to PSA because they submit a lot of cards..."

    The flaw in that logic is even though a large submitter might make up a decent chunk of PSA's business, PSA makes up a much bigger chunk of theirs.

    Whether they realize it or not, they're the top dog in this industry and they're in the driver's seat. 4sc, dsl, etc. could always choose not to use them, but how else are they going to get the kind of money they get now for the vast majority of the cards they sell??? Sure, vintage 50's and 60's HOF's will sell good in SGC/BVG holders, but who's subbing thousands of those per month?

    Also, if 4sc drops off it would cause an initial hit in PSA's sub levels, but I guarantee you someone will fill their slot in the marketplace as long as the demand is there. Most of it would probably be filled by other current large submitters who would grow bigger due to the sudden dropoff in competition.

    So, the real key is maintaining the demand for their cards. If that's there, the submissions will come in. Modern submissions have dropped off (I'm guessing) because the demand has waned, but friendly bumps aren't going to help that.

    GAI was accused by many of offering bumps to dealers...someone even posted here that they guaranteed a certain percentage of bumps. I don't know if that's true, but I think if Baker could start over again he'd be much more careful about protecting his brand's reputation. Collector demand is what drives the bus...period.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Why don't you try it ( submit through a big dealer) and report back your findings?


    Steve

    Good for you.
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  • when you submit 650 cards for a 5 day special, there may be a card or 2 that got the benefit of the doubt because they have to do this submission very fast....that doesnt mean they tried to give better grades, it just means they had to move fast and may have missed a slight imperfection that makes a card a PSA 8 v PSA 9......just saying
  • IMHO I really do not think that PSA would give a nearmint(7) card submitted by C&B or DSL or 4sc or SN a mint grade (9), call it integrity , grading standards or whatever. What I do believe is that every once and a while since grading is subjective on a 500 card submission a border line nm-mt (8) card may get the 8 grade but on a 10 card submission it could fall all the way to a (7).
    The card is definitly not overgraded at the (8) level but a small submitter might not get the benefit of the doubt. It's kinda like diving or gymnastics at the olympics ( a slightly cherubic short hair cut 300 pound diver goes in the water and nails a perfect 2 1/2 lyndy gets a score ranging from 5.1 to 5.6 (because nobody that large can nail a ^6^, but a long legged beauty with flowing locks enters at a slight angle gets scores ranging from 5.4 to 5.8. Face it people life isn't fair but we all need to trust TPG's just a little. Until something else comes along we gotta stick with what we got.

    SKY
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Sky the companies you mentioned do 5000 card orders not 500.

    To those that wonder why they get a better price per card, try subbing 1000 of cards and you too will get a better deal.


    Some even get a deal where ONLY 10's get graded and everything else gets sent back.

    Steve


    Good for you.
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    No is my answer. I am no dealer and overall not a big time submitter. I will however place a few 100+ subs a year on specials. Here are a few of my last two subs, which I think answer the question. These were all chrome or finest cards....hint...easy to scratch. Here are the results.

    Order #20300931 / Submission #659945
    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
    1 1 14690252 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF1 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    2 1 14690253 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF3 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    3 1 14690254 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF4 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    4 1 14690255 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF5 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    5 1 14690256 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF6 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    6 1 14690257 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF7 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    7 1 14690258 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF9 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    8 1 14690259 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF12 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    9 1 14690260 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF14 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    10 1 14690261 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF17 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    11 1 14690262 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF18 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    12 1 14690263 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF20 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    13 1 14690264 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF21 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    14 1 14690265 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF22 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    15 1 14690266 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF23 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    16 1 14690267 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF25 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    17 1 14690268 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF26 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    18 1 14690269 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF27 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    19 1 14690270 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF28 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    20 1 14690271 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF29 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    21 1 14690272 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF30 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    22 1 14690273 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF31 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    23 1 14690274 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF32 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    24 1 14690275 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF33 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    25 1 14690276 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF34 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    26 1 14690277 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF35 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    27 1 14690278 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF36 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    28 1 14690279 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF37 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    29 1 14690280 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF40 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    30 1 14690281 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF42 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    31 1 14690282 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF43 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    32 1 14690283 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF44 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    33 1 14690284 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF45 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    34 1 14690285 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF49 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    35 1 14690286 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF51 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    36 1 14690287 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF55 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    37 1 14690288 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF56 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    38 1 14690289 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF57 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    39 1 14690290 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF60 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    40 1 14690291 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF61 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    41 1 14690292 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF62 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    42 1 14690293 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF63 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    43 1 14690294 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF64 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    44 1 14690295 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF65 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    45 1 14690296 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF69 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    46 1 14690297 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF70 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    47 1 14690298 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF72 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    48 1 14690299 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF73 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    49 1 14690300 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF75 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    50 1 14690301 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF82 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    51 1 14690302 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF83 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    52 1 14690303 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF87 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    53 1 14690304 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF88 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    54 1 14690305 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF89 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    55 1 14690306 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF96 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    56 1 14690307 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF97 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    57 1 14690308 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF98 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    58 1 14690309 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF100 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    59 1 14690310 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF101 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    60 1 14690311 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF103 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    61 1 14690312 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF104 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    62 1 14690313 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF109 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    63 1 14690314 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF110 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    64 1 14690315 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF111 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    65 1 14690316 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF112 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    66 1 14690317 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF114 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    67 1 14690318 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF116 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    68 1 14690319 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF117 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    69 1 14690320 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF118 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    70 1 14690321 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF119 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    71 1 14690322 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF120 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    72 1 14690323 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF121 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    73 1 14690324 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF122 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    74 1 14690325 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF123 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    75 1 14690326 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF124 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    76 1 14690327 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF128 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    77 1 14690328 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF131 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    78 1 14690329 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF132 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    79 1 14690330 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF133 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    80 1 14690331 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF135 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    81 1 14690332 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF138 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    82 1 14690333 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF139 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    83 1 14690334 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF141 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    84 1 14690335 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF143 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    85 1 14690336 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF147 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    86 1 14690337 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF148 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    87 1 14690338 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF152 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    88 1 14690339 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF153 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    89 1 14690340 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF154 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    90 1 14690341 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF156 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    91 1 14690342 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF158 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    92 1 14690343 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF159 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    93 1 14690344 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF160 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    94 1 14690345 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF161 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    95 1 14690346 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF162 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    96 1 14690347 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF169 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    97 1 14690348 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF171 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    98 1 14690349 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF174 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    99 1 14690350 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF179 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    100 1 14690351 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF180 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    101 1 14690352 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF182 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    102 1 14690353 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF188 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    103 1 14690354 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF189 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    104 1 14690355 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF193 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    105 1 14690356 GEM MINT 10 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF194 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    106 1 14690357 MINT 9 2007 TOPPS CHROME BRETT FAVRE COLLECTION BF195 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    Total Items: 106
    Date Received: 5/5/2009
    Date Shipped: 6/3/2009
    Order Status: Shipped

    and

    Order #20300916 / Submission #659944
    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
    1 1 14690490 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    2 1 14690491 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF2 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    3 1 14690492 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF3 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    4 1 14690493 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF4 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    5 1 14690494 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF4 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    6 1 14690495 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF5 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    7 1 14690496 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF6 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    8 1 14690497 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF7 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    9 1 14690498 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF8 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    10 1 14690499 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF9 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    11 1 14690500 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    12 1 14690501 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF11 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    13 1 14690502 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF12 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    14 1 14690503 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF13 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    15 1 14690504 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF14 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    16 1 14690505 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF15 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    17 1 14690506 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF16 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    18 1 14690507 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF17 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    19 1 14690508 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF18 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    20 1 14690509 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF18 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    21 1 14690510 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF19 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    22 1 14690511 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF20 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    23 1 14690512 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    24 1 14690513 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF2 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    25 1 14690514 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF3 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    26 1 14690515 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF4 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    27 1 14690516 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF5 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    28 1 14690517 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF6 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    29 1 14690518 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF8 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    30 1 14690519 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF9 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    31 1 14690520 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF9 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    32 1 14690521 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    33 1 14690522 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF11 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    34 1 14690523 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF13 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    35 1 14690524 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF14 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    36 1 14690525 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF16 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    37 1 14690526 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF17 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    38 1 14690527 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF18 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    39 1 14690528 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF19 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    40 1 14690529 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF20 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    41 1 14690530 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    42 1 14690531 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF2 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    43 1 14690532 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF3 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    44 1 14690533 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF5 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    45 1 14690534 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF6 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    46 1 14690535 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF7 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    47 1 14690536 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF9 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    48 1 14690537 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    49 1 14690538 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF12 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    50 1 14690539 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF16 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    51 1 14690540 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF18 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    52 1 14690541 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF19 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    53 1 14690542 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF20 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    54 1 14690543 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF2 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    55 1 14690544 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF3 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    56 1 14690545 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF5 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    57 1 14690546 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF6 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    58 1 14690547 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF7 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    59 1 14690548 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF8 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    60 1 14690549 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF9 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    61 1 14690550 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    62 1 14690551 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF11 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    63 1 14690552 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF12 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    64 1 14690553 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF13 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    65 1 14690554 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF14 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    66 1 14690555 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF15 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    67 1 14690556 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF16 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    68 1 14690557 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF17 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    69 1 14690558 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF17 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    70 1 14690559 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF19 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    71 1 14690560 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF20 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    72 1 14690561 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    73 1 14690562 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF2 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    73 2 14690563 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF2 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    74 1 14690564 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF3 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    75 1 14690565 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF9 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    76 1 14690566 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    76 2 14690567 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    77 1 14690568 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF12 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    78 1 14690569 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF17 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    79 1 14690570 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    80 1 14690571 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF4 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    81 1 14690572 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF3 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    82 1 14690573 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF5 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    83 1 14690574 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF8 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    84 1 14690575 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    85 1 14690576 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF14 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    86 1 14690577 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF18 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    87 1 14690578 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF19 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    88 1 14690579 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE GREEN XFRACTOR Card US
    89 1 14690580 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF4 BRETT FAVRE GREEN XFRACTOR Card US
    90 1 14690581 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF6 BRETT FAVRE GREEN XFRACTOR Card US
    91 1 14690582 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF11 BRETT FAVRE GREEN XFRACTOR Card US
    92 1 14690583 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF16 BRETT FAVRE GREEN XFRACTOR Card US
    93 1 14690584 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF20 BRETT FAVRE GREEN XFRACTOR Card US
    94 1 14690585 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    95 1 14690586 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF2 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    96 1 14690587 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF3 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    97 1 14690588 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF5 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    98 1 14690589 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF15 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    99 1 14690590 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF20 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    100 1 14690591 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF6 BRETT FAVRE BLACK XFRACTOR Card US
    101 1 14690592 MINT 9 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF1 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    102 1 14690593 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF10 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    103 1 14690594 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF13 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    104 1 14690595 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF15 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    105 1 14690596 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF19 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    106 1 14690597 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST FAVRE FINEST MOMENTS BF4 BRETT FAVRE GOLD XFRACTOR Card US
    107 1 14690598 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST 120 BRETT FAVRE NON-PROTECTED Card US
    108 1 14690599 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST 120 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR, W/COATING Card US
    109 1 14690600 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST MYSTERY FINEST 2 M1 B.FAVRE/D.MARINO REFRACTOR Card US
    110 1 14690601 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST MYSTERY FINEST 2 M3 B.FAVRE/R.LEAF Card US
    111 1 14690602 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST MYSTERY FINEST 1 M4 B.FAVRE Card US
    112 1 14690603 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST MYSTERY FINEST 1 M1 B.FAVRE/M.BRUNELL Card US
    113 1 14690604 MINT 9 1998 FINEST MYSTERY FINEST 1 M1 B.FAVRE/M.BRUNELL REFRACTOR Card US
    114 1 14690605 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST MYSTERY FINEST 1 M2 B.FAVRE/J.PLUMMER REFRACTOR Card US
    115 1 14690606 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST MYSTERY FINEST 1 M3 B.FAVRE/S.YOUNG Card US
    116 1 14690607 GEM MINT 10 1998 FINEST STADIUM STARS SS10 BRETT FAVRE STADIUM STARS-W/COATING Card US
    117 1 14690608 MINT 9 1998 FINEST SUPER BOWL XXXIII 3 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    118 1 14690609 MINT 9 1999 FINEST 126 BRETT FAVRE W/COATING Card US
    119 1 14690610 MINT 9 1999 FINEST 126 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR, W/COATING Card US
    120 1 14690611 GEM MINT 10 2000 FINEST 41 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    121 1 14690612 GEM MINT 10 2000 FINEST 205 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    122 1 14690613 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 2000 FINEST SUPERSTARS S12 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    123 1 14690614 GEM MINT 10 2001 FINEST 53 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    124 1 14690615 GEM MINT 10 2003 FINEST 3 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    125 1 14690616 GEM MINT 10 2004 FINEST 50 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    126 1 14690617 GEM MINT 10 2004 FINEST 50 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    127 1 14690618 GEM MINT 10 2004 FINEST 50 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    128 1 14690619 GEM MINT 10 2004 FINEST 50 BRETT FAVRE GOLD XFRACTOR Card US
    128 2 14690620 GEM MINT 10 2004 FINEST 50 BRETT FAVRE GOLD XFRACTOR Card US
    129 1 14690621 MINT 9 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    130 1 14690622 GEM MINT 10 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE X-FRACTOR Card US
    131 1 14690623 MINT 9 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    132 1 14690624 GEM MINT 10 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLUE X-FRACTOR Card US
    133 1 14690625 GEM MINT 10 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    134 1 14690626 GEM MINT 10 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    135 1 14690627 MINT 9 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLACK XFRACTOR Card US
    136 1 14690628 GEM MINT 10 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    137 1 14690629 GEM MINT 10 2005 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GOLD XFRACTOR Card US
    138 1 14690630 MINT 9 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    139 1 14690631 MINT 9 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    140 1 14690632 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    141 1 14690633 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    142 1 14690634 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLUE XFRACTOR Card US
    143 1 14690635 MINT 9 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    144 1 14690636 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GREEN XFRACTOR Card US
    145 1 14690637 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    146 1 14690638 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE BLACK XFRACTOR Card US
    147 1 14690639 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    148 1 14690640 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    149 1 14690641 GEM MINT 10 2006 FINEST 66 BRETT FAVRE GOLD XFRACTOR Card US
    150 1 14690642 GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 17 BRETT FAVRE REFRACTOR Card US
    151 1 14690643 GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 17 BRETT FAVRE XFRACTOR Card US
    152 1 14690644 GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 17 BRETT FAVRE BLUE REFRACTOR Card US
    153 1 14690645 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 2007 FINEST 17 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    154 1 14690646 GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 17 BRETT FAVRE GREEN REFRACTOR Card US
    155 1 14690647 MINT 9 2007 FINEST 17 BRETT FAVRE BLACK REFRACTOR Card US
    156 1 14690648 GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 17 BRETT FAVRE GOLD REFRACTOR Card US
    157 1 14690649 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 2008 FINEST 151 BRETT FAVRE Card US
    Total Items: 160
    Date Received: 5/5/2009
    Date Shipped: 6/9/2009
    Order Status: Shipped
    Packers Fan for Life
    Collecting:
    Brett Favre Master Set
    Favre Ticket Stubs
    Favre TD Reciever Autos
    Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
    Football HOF Rc's
  • hankcaddyhankcaddy Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i don't think they get any breaks on grading, i think they do prescreen their cards.they probably have a better idea of what PSA is looking for , but as jradke4 has shown, anyone who puts in the time can get a stunner of a batch put together
    i buy from a fairly large dealer who told me he avg 91/92 out of 100 of 10.0, of course this is on a modern type set, i see he also does very well with vintage
    i believe most of his cards are realistic grades.
    he has sorted though thousands of worthless 1989 topps for me and found many 10's
    currently collecting baseball of
    2004 spx
    1989 topps psa 10
    1959 phillies
    Phillies of the 70's
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