ANA Show Location

Newmismatist

I have read with interest several threads that were very critical of the LA location for the 2009 ANA World's Fair of Money Convention. That location was selected 4 or 5 years ago, in a different economy with very different ANA leadership.

If you could select the location for the next available Summer ANA Convention (2013), where should the show be held? and Why?

bfjohnson

Columbia, SC because it's close to home.

keets

somewhere more towards the middle of the country, maybe Cincinnatti or St.Louis.

Swampboy

Unless it's in beautiful Columbia SC I say back to West the after three shows East of the Mississippi.
It's only fair.


Las Vegas? Phoenix? Seattle? Portland? Dallas? San Diego?


I enjoy reading all the points of view these threads bring up.



edit to add San Diego.

DwaineO

What is the schedule for the next couple of years?

speety

I Like the Cincy/St. Louis idea, but Cincy WILL NOT get one for a while imho. The airport is about a half hour away with little transportation options outside of a cab and Ohio now has this dam sales tax. Although being about 30 minutes the show would be nice.

I like the St. Louis location.

coinmanic

Detroit. Rooms are cheap and the dealers wouldn't have to worry about transporting inventory back home.

illini420

I say bring it back to SoCal!!! Maybe just need to get PCGS to cancel the fall Long Beach show and have the ANA at the Long Beach Convention Center instead of downtown L.A. Sounds like a big winner to me so that just tells me it'll never ever happen.

LanLord

China, that's where most of the US coins will be coming from by then anyway!

WTCG

Personally I would not prefer a show anywhere in the Midwest/ middle of the country, with the exception of Chicago. Unattractive cities that have seen better days but now lacking in overall appeal, mediocre and often aging facilities and infrastructure, and provincial levels of sophistication just don't do it for me.

I do agree with many others in that I would like to see a future show in San Diego or Las Vegas, but I understand that due to a few important factors and some political issues an ANA convention in either one of those cities is still at unlikely at this time.

I also believe that the ANA would have a great show if held in San Francisco again. The ANA just needs to make sure they properly plan the logistics before the show begins and most importantly, have the area between the down escalator and the entrance to the bourse floor roped off with a big sign that reads: "EXIT THROUGH BOURSE ROOM ONLY" or something similar.

Here are a few other places I would love to see the ANA head over to if able: Washington D.C., Seattle, New Orleans (spring only).

Tootawl

I've been to the San Francsico ANA and the L.A. ANA shows. At both, attendence (both sellers and buyers) was low.

I vote for anywhere except any town in California.

Newmismatist

<< <i>What is the schedule for the next couple of years? >>



2010 Mid Winter: Dallas Fort Worth

2010 Summer: Boston

2011 Mid Winter: Sacramento

2011 Summer: Chicago (Rosemont)

2012 Mid Winter: Site selection Open

2012 Summer: Philadelphia

2013 Mid Winter: Site selection Open

2013 Summer: Site selection Open

Opinions for the Mid-Winter shows are also welcome

Bear

The ANA has never held a convention

and show in Tahitii. Why not?

Bochiman

I would go for Seattle.
Major hub. Easy access.
Plenty of affordable hotel rooms.
Portland ANA seemed to go well and there were plenty of folks coming down from Seattle area.
There are enough of them on the East Coast that, if the ANA truly wants to keep the hobby going, and be open to all, then it needs to allow for the West Coast.
YNs don't travel easily and if you exclude the West Coast then you will exclude many potential, or existing, YNs.

WTCG

<< <i>I've been to the San Francsico ANA and the L.A. ANA shows. At both, attendence (both sellers and buyers) was low.

I vote for anywhere except any town in California. >>



As I stated in another thread, the attendance count in terms of number of registered people showed that attendance for the ANA in San Francisco was actually fairly high. The only problem was many people after registering and touring the exhibits and mint booths departed the building without setting foot in the bourse room. If those people were channeled into the bourse room then the bourse would have looked totally different than it did.

If I'm not mistaken, the attendance count for the spring show in Sacramento in 1999 was one of the two or three best attended spring ANA shows ever. I believe it was a good decision for the ANA to head back there in 2011.

If anybody knows of the actual attendance count for L.A. I would like to know what it is.

Newmismatist

<< <i>The ANA has never held a convention and show in Tahitii. Why not? >>



Captain Bleigh went there and had some problems - It's warm and sunny all the time, the beaches are beautiful, the women are gorgeous and they swim in the water naked. Who would want to go to a coin show once they got there?

LeeG

Washington, DC would work for me.

Nic

Seattle.

K

TonedCoinTrader

I vote San Diego.

EagleEye

Seattle, San Diego, Memphis or Nashville.

MrEureka

New York. Despite some complaints about the expense, past ANA conventions in NYC have been fantastic. And the city is an attraction in itself, especially for those that choose not to sit through auctions every night.

BTW, I understand that Baltimore offers many of the same benefits at a lower cost, but we already spend enough time there.

Sunnywood

Actually the L.A. Convention Center was a surprisingly pleasant and convenient location for the show, and the weather was much more agreeable than I expected. The bourse floor was spacious and accessible, with good parking, and the facility was clean, attractive and felt secure. I know people complained about the hotels not being close, but in my case that was not an issue.

I think the show would have been slow regardless of the venue, so I do not blame the very light attendance on the venue.

As far as future venues, there are arguments to be made for cities that are centrally located and accessible to the whole continental U.S. Chicago comes to mind, as would any other major airline hub city. Another argument can be made for areas that don't have major shows already. This rules out Baltimore and its environs, including Philly; Long Beach and its environs, including L.A. and San Diego; and Orlando (and the entire state of Florida, which I don't want to visit in the summer anyway). That leaves places like New York, which might be expensive but offers a substantial collector base; Boston; Seattle; and many other places around the country. Of course any choice must have an appropriate venue for the bourse.

The fact that ANA is a mid-summer show does weigh against locations that would be prohibitively hot in summer, even though they might otherwise be nice choices. Dallas and Phoenix come to mind, as well as San Diego. Another choice someday might be New Orleans, which is always interesting, and is still in need of economic support after Katrina. But again, it's very hot and humid in the summer, so that's an argument against it. The weather in summer makes me favor the northern locations already mentioned: Chicago, Boston, Seattle, New York.

I wouldn't mind an excuse to go to Hawaii someday, or even Alaska !! But that is pretty far-fetched, I know.

Sunnywood

ColonialCoinUnion

<< <i>If I'm not mistaken, the attendance count for the spring show in Sacramento in 1999 was one of the two or three best attended spring ANA shows ever. I believe it was a good decision for the ANA to head back there in 2011. >>



Good to hear that perspective. When I saw that location on the schedule, I wasn't feeling very optimistic.

shorecoll

I agree with Eagle Eye, let's do Memphis. There could be a competition for the dealer with the most BBQ sauce on their clothes, with a secondary competition for sticky slabs.

MrEureka

Austin might also work well.

Justacommeman

<<Personally I would not prefer a show anywhere in the Midwest/ middle of the country, with the exception of Chicago. Unattractive cities that have seen better days but now lacking in overall appeal, mediocre and often aging facilities and infrastructure, and provincial levels of sophistication just don't do it for me>>

How very aristocratic. I never associated general coin collecting with sophistication before. They are not often used in the same sentence except perhaps at the Longacre Manor.

I've lived in Detroit, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Long Island, NJ, St. Louis, Seattle and LA. I've worked out of and had offices in Paris, London, Barcelona and Tokyo. I currently live equally between LA, Michigan and Gaungzhou. Rest assured I can find warts on every city I listed.

Detroit for example is the punching bag of the US. However in a very short span they hosted the Superbowl, The Final Four, The Ryder Cup, The US Open, The All star game and they will host the Frozen Four next year. Somehow, I think they could handle the ANA. Detroit has a world class airport and hotels are cheap. It will never happen of course.

I used Detroit as an example because if I could make a case for it, every other city should be a breeeze to defend. Even so, there is no doubt in my mind that it would work in Detroit of all places.

It just so happens that Milwaukee, Chicago and Michigan are hotbeds of coin collecting. In my ANA classes this summer the provincial level of sophistication people dominated those in attendance from the chosen lands. Maybe the flatlanders should have been home painting their 250 year old French Renaissance buildings instead ( which are gorgeous, I musty add) or filling in all there potholes......

St. Louis is too hot to host a summer ANA. All the slabs would melt. For real.

I suggest the following off the radar cities to be looked at and studied at least for future ANA conventions:

Columbus ( lots of pluses) , Nashville, Seattle, Portland , Charlotte and Atlanta.

The usual suspects to be considered: San Diego, Aneheim, SF, Dallas, Chicago, Boston, Denver, Baltimore and Philly.

I suspect somebody can find something wrong with everyone of these cities.

Personally, I would LOVE to see Manhattan host the ANA. But, that's just me.

Are smugness and sophistication mutually inclusive or exclusive? I always seem to mess that up..........JMO. MJ

krueger

San Diego!! Comic-con covention has 80,000 attendees. Beautiful convention center right on the water . lots of hotels, shopping.

One dealer at LA ANA said he hated SD because in 1983!! We were in a low ceiling building that felt like a garage.
Dude that was 26 years ago, get over it, Time has past you.
I heard that SD and the ANA had some sort of disagreements at that time and it left a bad taste. Not sure the details.

ANA Get over it too!!

Krueger

foodude

When suggesting cities having multiple facilities where the ANA convention could be held, can you list your facility preference(s) and the reason(s) why.

ebaytrader

<< <i>San Diego!! Comic-con covention has 80,000 attendees. Beautiful convention center right on the water . lots of hotels, shopping.

One dealer at LA ANA said he hated SD because in 1983!! We were in a low ceiling building that felt like a garage.
Dude that was 26 years ago, get over it, Time has past you.
I heard that SD and the ANA had some sort of disagreements at that time and it left a bad taste. Not sure the details.

ANA Get over it too!!

Krueger >>



A great deal, or maybe all, of a convention's success is rooted in the show management. Clubs, including the ANA, would be wise to hire professionals to site & manage the shows and stay the hell outta the way.

There are great facilities all across the country. I've noticed Detroit mentioned disparagingly but even the Detroit area has an excellent facility in Novi called the Rock Financial Showplace. It's in a good area, an easy ride from the airport and near major highways with plenty of hotel rooms in wide swath of price ranges.

Swampboy

I'd love to hear what's up with this inferenced San Diego - ANA controversy.

Someone please dish.

mozin

Portland, Oregon, and Seattle both normally have pleasant Summer temperatures. They get my vote.

PonyExpress8

On the west Coast, San Diego, Sacramento (which is getting one in the spring and yes it's close to me so bias acknowledged), Portland, and Seattle. All have nice facilities, nearby lodging and don't have 3 major shows a year that pirate attendance. The Spring show this year in Portland was very well attended and had strong results.

As for the midwest, Chicago, Denver and Minneapolis would be nice choices IMHO. The Denver show was the best in the past 6 years from everyone I talk too. Minneapolis has a large collector base and its smaller shows do very well. Chicago area seems to be a natural as well. Perhaps something south might be ok too such as Oklahoma City or a city in Texas although warm in the summer.

Back east I would think Pittsburgh might be an interesting place. A recent national bridge tournament held there was quite successful.

No matter where you hold it there will be time zone differences. I know when I go east to Baltimore etc. it's a lot harder physically as I am tired when I get started. I am sure it is the same for the east coast dealers coming out west.

I would be curious to hear from some other collectors and dealers about alternate East Coast locations.

Nic

NYC is great anytime. Perhaps after Boston and Philly?

For a west coast show in August, Seattle sounds killer (though not a "coin" town). How about Longbeach moves one show to San Diego? Might help everyone?

K

krueger

I'd love to hear what's up with this inferenced San Diego - ANA controversy.
i]Someone please dish

I've heard this rumor for years. I heard it again at the LA ANA. I could never find out what happened.
In 1983 we had it at one of the hotels in Mission valley hotel circle off of route 8
I think it was in their hotel facility. Not particularily nice as I recall. It was my second ANA so I did not know any better.
My speculation is (probably not the facts) is that the ANA used the hotel and not the SD convention facilities.
There was also a mid year in the 80'S later in SD that was as I remember in a garage like room. I remember saying to myself that was one of the worst venues rooms I've ever been in ( some called it an underground garage). I can still recall being there and the feel of the place, and having a waist of time show.

If anyone goes back that far and knows the scope fill us in, please.


krueger