Opinions on this Presidential Dollar "Error" Please

19Lyds

Picked up this 2007-P Washington Satin Finish Weak Edge Lettering coin on eBay:









What do you think? A good example of Weak Edge Lettering?

derryb

very good example. what did you pay?

MsMorrisine

you know, I don't know...

but those horizontal striations where the rest of the lettering would be speaks of PMD.

19Lyds

<< <i>very good example. what did you pay? >>



$5.00 plus $4.95 shipping.

Waiting on more opinions..................

ctf_error_coins

looks like damage in a counting machine?

not sure tho

SUMORADA

I vote damage.............

I just looked at some that I have, they look the same......so it must be market acceptable damage

Raybob15239

IMO, PMD

MsMorrisine

It might be remotely possible that it was stuck in the machine and received those horizontal lines.

I'd wonder if getting stuck in a coin counting machine or in someone's fingers who is holding a file is also possible.


http://minterrornews.com/issue2007special.pdf

does it have vertical ejection marks over the horizontal lines?



you know... I'm a beginner at this ... all of this...

MsMorrisine

although, I must say the rest of the lettering is like some weak struck edges. it's definitely not as deep as is typical.


in the first picture, it appears there are horizontal marks "inside" what would be the top of the first and second "0" (zero.) And, I'm wondering if that is part of the "0" rising on the right into the more "yellow" area for both the first and second "0". Likewise for the "7." Coincedentally, that "yellow" area is where the weakness really begins with strength. (I just had to say it that way.)

derryb

appears that the edge lettering machine "shaved" the top 20% of the coin's edge resulting in weak lettering.

19Lyds

<< <i>looks like damage in a counting machine?

not sure tho >>



The lines on the edge go around the complete circumferance of the coin and the obverse and reverse show no indication of damage.

19Lyds

<< <i>does it have vertical ejection marks over the horizontal lines? >>



No.

However, check out the dent:



Scratches go through the dent indicating the dent came afterward. Have you ever tried to dent one of these things right out of your pocket?

19Lyds

<< <i>although, I must say the rest of the lettering is like some weak struck edges. it's definitely not as deep as is typical.


in the first picture, it appears there are horizontal marks "inside" what would be the top of the first and second "0" (zero.) And, I'm wondering if that is part of the "0" rising on the right into the more "yellow" area for both the first and second "0". Likewise for the "7." Coincedentally, that "yellow" area is where the weakness really begins with strength. (I just had to say it that way.) >>



The zero's:

HalfStrike

dremeled? To be honest it looks like it is worth one dollar to me.

19Lyds

I'll have to break out my dremel just to see how easy, or difficult, it might be to dremel it just on the upper half of the edge.

Silverstate

Does look like Post Mint Damage...Likely caused by a dremel. IMHO
That's a bummer.

Until I could see that close up of the straitions on the edge. It looked pretty nice from a distance.

Bigrig52

They seen you coming..PMD

GrumpyEd

You might need to send that one in to find out.
I'm mixed on it myself.

19Lyds

<< <i>You might need to send that one in to find out.
I'm mixed on it myself. >>

There in lies the $50 question because thats what it takes to get these slabbed as they are considered errors.

I'm hoping that someone has some that they know for sure came out of a Satin Finish Mint set for comparison. I have a weak edge lettering Washington SF but it's the "outlined Letter" variety:



Plus, PCGS will not attribute a coin that has rim damage which I suspect that this could be interpreted as.

adamlaneus

All of those scratches parallel to the coin are not right.

There should be faint lines perpendicular to the coin on the rim. I see those, but they stop at that region of deeper scratches near the top.

It looks manufactured to me. I vote PMD.