Dodgers v. Giants

larryallen73

Digicat (and other Giant's fans)-
Looks like a BIG series this week, eh!?

You are starting to think there is a chance they could overtake the Dodger's in the west... but I am feeling like the Dodger's will turn things around and take 2 out of 3.

I still wouldn't want to play the Giant's in the playoffs this year. That pitching will make them a tough out.

GO BLUE!

digicat

I'd feel a lot better if we were trotting out Lincecum-Zito-Cain, instead of Sanchez-Martinez-Lincecum though.

If we make it to the playoffs, I fully expect them to drop to a 4 man rotation.

5.5 games isn't a huge lead.

JackWESQ

Dear larryallen73,

I would have responded to this post much earlier, but for reasons you are well aware, I can only respond now. BIG series? Perhaps in your eyes. For me, this series decides nothing. If the Giants' pitchers threw three (3) straight perfect games retiring each Dodger hitter on one pitch or vice versa, neither team would concede the season. Just another three (3) games on the schedule.

/s/ JackWESQ

digicat

Sigh. Walks end up doing in Sanchez again. And Martinez tomorrow, ugh.

larryallen73

Dear Mr. Jackwesq:
You darn lawyers are so analytical.

I am just trying to help perpetuate the "rivalry" that exists between the North and South in Cali (but not that South and North generally).

Having said that... one down.

Go Dodger Blue!

digicat

For this Giants fan, anytime there's Dodger blue in the vicinity of China Basin, it's time to get down!

digicat

Ugh. Apparently "get down" this week means to kneel over the toilet and hurl.

larryallen73

Good morning Digi and JackW. Just wanted to say hi. Hope you guys have a good day.

digicat

Walk off shot to end it!

Still, this should have been Lincecum's 13th win. 1st base ump Gary Darling really blew it today with the Furcal call.


Giants 4, Dodgers 1, Umpires 1

larryallen73

Digi-
I did not watch the game. Sorry to hear the Giant's won.

Sorry your guy didn't get his 13th... but don't go to the ump card. Blaming refs/umps for something like that means you should give them credit when they give a team/guy a gift win which, by defintion happens 50% of the time. However, people only seem to bring it up when it hurts their team!?

It's one of my biggest complaints against my fellow King's fans here in Sac. They are constantly blaming the refs. I heard Jerry Reynolds talk yesterday and he said something to the effect of, "don't blame the refs... the King's are just a really bad team...."

JackWESQ

The win for Lincecum would have been nice. But yes, a win or a loss does not turn on a single play. However, a missed call is a missed call and the the umpire clearly made an error.

/s/ JackWESQ

digicat

<< <i>Sorry your guy didn't get his 13th... but don't go to the ump card. Blaming refs/umps for something like that means you should give them credit when they give a team/guy a gift win which, by defintion happens 50% of the time. However, people only seem to bring it up when it hurts their team!? >>



From what I read, even Vin Scully thought it was a bad call.

larryallen73

Digi-
I am not saying it was not a bad call. I saw it this morning on Spors Center and they agreed he was out. Of course Vin Scully would be honest because he is the most objective team announcer in sports. 60 years announcing the same team, which he obviously loves, but he can still be objective in his announcing. Growing up with that makes it difficult for me to get used to all the homer announcers we have now days.

My post above was really speaking of a bigger issue of people whining about bad calls (ala King's fan WHINING still about the 2002 playoffs). I am not saying you are whining. Maybe you are just more stating that it sucks the ump didn't get the call right and you are right it sucks.

My only point is calls go 50/50. You get good calls, bad calls, and over the scope of time, if one can impartial about it, they will realize they get exactly as many good calls as bad calls.

I am a stats guy too so am sorry your guy didn't get his win but that doesn't take away from a nice pitching performance and looking forward... again, as a Dodger fan I do not want to play the Giant's in the playoffs.

SanctionII

I have lived in Cal. for 31 years, both in Sacramento (3 years), So. Cal. (5 years) and the SF Bay Area (23 years).

With respect to the rivalry between So. Cal. and No. Cal., it exists mostly in the minds of the people living in No. Cal.

Many people I talk to in No. Cal. have hostile feelings about So. Cal.

However, many people I talk to in So. Cal. rarely, if ever, give any thought to No. Cal. at all. It is as if the world outside of Coastal So. Cal. from Santa Barbara to San Diego and the LA Basin (including No. Cal., the other 49 states, Canada, Mexico and the rest of the world) simply does not exist, or at least does not warrant much, if any, thought at all.

digicat

<< <i>With respect to the rivalry between So. Cal. and No. Cal., it exists mostly in the minds of the people living in No. Cal. >>



I've never lived in So-Cal, so I can't confirm or deny your statements, but I do know several Lakers, Dodger, and LA Rams fans who live up here in nor-cal, and they are very much into the "rivalrys."

Regardless, it's fun to engage in this stuff if you don't get too crazy with it.

JackWESQ

If the San Francisco Bay Area is considered Northern California, then what is the almost 400 miles north of San Francisco?

/s/ JackWESQ

larryallen73

I've never lived in So-Cal, so I can't confirm or deny your statements, but I do know several Lakers, Dodger, and LA Rams fans who live up here in nor-cal, and they are very much into the "rivalrys."

Regardless, it's fun to engage in this stuff if you don't get too crazy with it.



I can't speak for others but for me it started about a month after I moved from So Cal to No Cal and started hearing about the "rivalry." There is a lot of hostility up here toward just about everything from the south. I got into the rivalry during college going to school up north. However, people in LA do not have hostility toward No Cal. Generally speaking they think highly of No Cal as a nice place to visit. Go up to "frisco" and then over to Napa....

P.S. Jack- There is nothing about Santa Rosa until Oregon.

digicat

<< <i>However, people in LA do not have hostility toward No Cal. >>



Of course not. We give them our water, they send us their gangs. It's a great trade.

larryallen73

Of course not. We give them our water, they send us their gangs. It's a great trade.

and "they" give us movies and tv shows to watch, hot chicks, and real beaches! When people think of California they think of all that stuff but ALL of that good stuff comes from down south.

bman90278

Glad the Dodgers took 2 of 3. I would like to add that it's definitely a serious rivalry down here in LA, but I think the bay area takes it way more serious than we do.



<< <i>Of course not. We give them our water, they send us their gangs. It's a great trade.

and "they" give us movies and tv shows to watch, hot chicks, and real beaches! When people think of California they think of all that stuff but ALL of that good stuff comes from down south. >>



Unfortunately we don't give you as many movies or tv shows as we used to do.

Brian

bman90278

The Giants are almost done for 2009.

Sincerely,
LA Dodgers

digicat

<< <i>The Giants are almost done for 2009.

Sincerely,
LA Dodgers >>



Only the Rockies can truly sign off on that.

Looks like the Brad Penny "revenge" start against the Dodgers went well though.

Crazy series! Giants get owned by Kuroda and Padilla, but run Chad Billingsly out of the game after 4.

bman90278

<< <i>
Looks like the Brad Penny "revenge" start against the Dodgers went well though.

Crazy series! Giants get owned by Kuroda and Padilla, but run Chad Billingsly out of the game after 4. >>



I always thought Penny was a guy the Dodgers should have kept, but they went another direction. Not sure what's up with Billingsley, but he hasn't pitched well during this whole second half...Probably only 2 or 3 decent starts out of his last 15 to 18 games. Not sure why, but Chad is not getting strikes and throwing way too many pitches which keeps getting him in trouble.

brian

digicat

Here we go again, last time for the season... unless Giants catch fire and the Rockies colapse, then we could possibly have an SF vs LA NLCS. Ohhhh, how awesome would that be?


Friday - Sanchez vs Padilla
Saturday - Penny vs Garland
Sunday - Lincecum vs Wolf

Sanchez, I dunno, but Penny and Lincecum will keep the score low.

As for the Giants scoring runs, it's tough to tell which Giants will show up.


There was talk about skipping Sanchez and going with Penny-Lincecum-Zito for this series, but apparently Boch doesn't want to hurt Sanchez's feelings.

MLRMLEO

Well its been a good year for the Giants here is hoping them well, as the Dodgers put them to Bed!

digicat

<< <i>Well its been a good year for the Giants here is hoping them well, as the Dodgers put them to Bed! >>



Not tonight.


Billingsley out of the pen? Sacrifical lamb to keep the rest of the Dodgers pen fresh, or are the Dodgers trying to figure out what's wrong with him? I notice that they're skipping his turn in the rotation this weekend.

The Giants dumped Jonathan Sanchez in the bullpen near the end of the first half, and he threw a no-hitter on his first game back in the starting rotation. Sometimes it works.

bman90278

<< <i>

<< <i>Well its been a good year for the Giants here is hoping them well, as the Dodgers put them to Bed! >>



Not tonight.


Billingsley out of the pen? Sacrifical lamb to keep the rest of the Dodgers pen fresh, or are the Dodgers trying to figure out what's wrong with him? I notice that they're skipping his turn in the rotation this weekend.

The Giants dumped Jonathan Sanchez in the bullpen near the end of the first half, and he threw a no-hitter on his first game back in the starting rotation. Sometimes it works. >>



Not sure Rich, Billingsley has not pitched well since the All Star break. He's pithcing the way he did when he first came up to the Dodgers. For some reason he's not getting the pitches over for strikes and getting himself into bad pitch counts....Also throwing way too many pitches by the second and third inning. Basically the batters are getting their pitches and great situations off Billingsley. Torre probably wanted him to get in a couple of good innings in between his starts.

Maybe the prices will come down on some of Chad's cards right now so I can buy one. lol

brian

digicat

Blegh! Looks like the Boston Brad Penny showed up today. Well, at least none of those runs carry over to tomorrow.

benderbroeth

12-1.....................

bman90278

digicat

WTF! I guess all that LA smog is choking our ace.

TNP777

not a good day for your 14-year-old phenom. 4 IP, 5 earned (so far), 4 hits, 4 BB, 3 SO. If Ethier scores, the book will be closed with 6 earned (barring an error).

Could this start cost him the CY? The way Carpenter has been pitching, could be.

digicat

<< <i>Could this start cost him the CY? The way Carpenter has been pitching, could be. >>



With this meltdown, it'll probably take a pair of perfect games to end the season to keep him in the running. I'm guessing that the Cy Young Award will be in St Louis this year. Either Carpenter or Wainwright.

digicat

Well, part-time outfielder Andres Torres figured out Randy Wolf today (2-3, 2 HRs). He needs to share his findings with the rest of the Giants.

larryallen73

Good guys won again, eh!?

Looks like it about time for the cry of the Giant's to be yelled from the rooftops, "wait 'til next year."

bman90278

Dodgers are now 30 games over .500 for the first time in 20+ years.....Don't know how they will do in the playoffs this year because of some questionmarks.

Chad Billingsley? Can he come back

Clayton Kershaw? He was hot this summer, hopefully he can return to form.

Manny? Seems like he's been hitting lots of high flies and not his normal line drives...But he's still hitting over .300 so I guess we got spoiled last year.

Kuroda? Was the so called ace of the staff early this year, but now he's gotta bounce back from the line drive.

Maybe Garland will continue to throw well and Padilla can be a #3 guy? Or Wolf??


Either way, I'm glad the Dodgers put it to the Giants again this series.

Brian

digicat

<< <i>Good guys won again, eh!? >>



Anything connected to LA reeks of villainy as far as I'm concerned.


Well, for a team that's still in flux, the Giants have been outstanding. All they need to do during the off-season is acquire a few bats, and we'll take a run at the NL west, not the wild card.

TNP777

<< <i>

<< <i>Good guys won again, eh!? >>



Anything connected to LA reeks of villainy as far as I'm concerned.


Well, for a team that's still in flux, the Giants have been outstanding. All they need to do during the off-season is acquire a few bats, and we'll take a run at the NL west, not the wild card. >>

I think the clear choice to make is to trade Lincecum for a bat while he still has some value. The way the Dodgers treated him today, he may pull an Atlee Hammaker and never be the same.

We'll gladly send you Juan Pierre and Jamie McCourt for your obviously washed-up pitcher. Oh, you can have Jim Thome, too.

digicat

Timmy's gotten roughed up before. He'll be alright. He's made of sterner stuff than Atlee ever was.



Matt Cain's the guy who the trade rumors usually involve.

However, I'd give you Freddy Lewis AND Merkin Valdez for Juan Pierre.

TNP777

throw in ay-you-hay-nee-oh Velez and you got a deal!

digicat

He used to be known as Epic-henio Fail-ez, due to his inability to grasp a few of the games finer points of the game, such as hitting, throwing, and catching. He's working it out though.

Nah. We'll give you Randy Winn instead.