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Anyone up for a German States attribution challenge?

StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭
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This silver 1584 (Kreuzer?) is approximately 27mm, and I'll be darned if I can figure it out. I can usually hold my own in German States attributions, but this one has me stumped.

Can anyone out there help?

I'm working from a scan of a photocopy of the coin, but hopefully enough detail is present...

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Thanks in advance!

Mike

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    DCHDCH Posts: 332
    Julich-Cleve-Berg
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    StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭

    Thanks!

    So at 27mm, this would most likely be a Stuber (21 Heller, or 1/56 Thaler) then?

    (I ask, because the 1584 Julich-Cleve-Berg 1/2 Stuber shown here is slightly different.)

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    DCHDCH Posts: 332
    Saurma lists it as a 'Zwolfer'
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    StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭

    That is a new one for me!

    Thanks,

    Mike
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    DCHDCH Posts: 332
    I had to look it up...

    From Frey's 'A Dictionary of Numismatic Names'

    "Zwolfer or Pfundner, A silver Groschen of the value of twelve Kreuzer, struck by Ferdinand I(1521-1564) for Tyrol, Carinthia, and Styria. It was copied by William de Bronckhorst of Batenbourg(1556-1573), and by Michael Apafi for Transylvania."

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    StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭

    Any idea as to value?
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