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Sanction II's Toned Rosy Collection (Dial up folks quit while you are ahead.)
BECOKA
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Edited: See Sanction's background on this in Post #32
This last two weeks I undertook what may be my largest project to date. Sanction II showed me a fantastic toned Rosy set at the last Santa Clara show that he picked up for a song at a local dealer. He then moved the set from an album to an old original Capital holder which was made sometime before they new there would be no mint marks from 1965-1968 displayed on the holder.
I immediately knew this set had to be photographed and below are the results.
First a few notes about the photography:
-Because of the size of this project I allowed two shots per side, one angled for luster and color and the other parallel to the lens
-The number one priority for me was to capture luster and color, this means I sacrificed focus/detail because I had to angle the coin away from the lens to do this. If the photo became too blurry then I would default to the photo with the coin parallel to the lens which mutes the color and luster but everything is in focus.
Edited: The clads were added after the fact as fillers. I have no idea if they would have toned in the same album that the silvers were originally in.
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This last two weeks I undertook what may be my largest project to date. Sanction II showed me a fantastic toned Rosy set at the last Santa Clara show that he picked up for a song at a local dealer. He then moved the set from an album to an old original Capital holder which was made sometime before they new there would be no mint marks from 1965-1968 displayed on the holder.
I immediately knew this set had to be photographed and below are the results.
First a few notes about the photography:
-Because of the size of this project I allowed two shots per side, one angled for luster and color and the other parallel to the lens
-The number one priority for me was to capture luster and color, this means I sacrificed focus/detail because I had to angle the coin away from the lens to do this. If the photo became too blurry then I would default to the photo with the coin parallel to the lens which mutes the color and luster but everything is in focus.
Edited: The clads were added after the fact as fillers. I have no idea if they would have toned in the same album that the silvers were originally in.
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Thats quite a dime set there!
To my eye, all the toning appears natural. You guys agree?
Or, is it possible this was faked and why or why not? (by the way, I already know anything is possible)
Help me learn.
I think they are classic examples of album toning at its best.
<< <i>Interesting how only the silvers are toned. I dont like Roosevelts but this set is nice. >>
The clads were added after the fact as fillers. I have no idea if they would have toned in the same album that the silvers were originally in.
<< <i>Why would there be two 67 SMS's and not a business strike when there are a business and SMS of the other two years? >>
If you are talking about the coins in this set I have no idea, they are just fillers that were added to fill the holes. Hopefully Sanction will chime in this evening or tomorrow moring with an answer.
They're all nice.
Come to think of it, in an odd sort of way, this might be the first thread by Sanction II with pics in it!
Nice collection of toners!
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<< <i>I like the 54-d the best myself. I am kind of partial to that year.
Come to think of it, in an odd sort of way, this might be the first thread by Sanction II with pics in it!
Nice collection of toners! >>
Technically he did not start it.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>Very cool and a terrific image of the set as a single entity. >>
That is actually a tedious compilation. I Scanned the Capital holder blank, then took each individual coin's photo and scaled them to fit over the holes.
All I can say is that he did a geat job. For those who look at this thread and want to see larger pictures, click the link Becoka has placed in his OP to his website. You can find larger images of the coins there.
Later on I will post again and provide some details about this set.
I just happened to be in the right place, at the right time, which allowed me to acquire what is really a very nice original set of MS toned Roosies.
The clads also have a story, as does the Capital Holder.
Kudos and thanks to Becoka. He did a wonderful job and deserves a lot of credit for his hard work on this project. I recommend him to anyone who wants to have photos taken of your coins. I have no doubt you would be pleased.
SanctionII.
P.S. Isn't it kind of nice to see me involved in posts that to not talk about lawsuits over coins
–John Adams, 1826
Great set...
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I love the toning and I have no doubt that was a lot of work to image. The result is a couple of the most dramatic images I've seen on the forum.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
A couple of years ago I stopped by a local shop and saw a set of MS silver Roosies in a Capital Holder. I asked the shop owner about the set. He said he had had it in the shop for a while and offered it to me for a low price. I said ok and bought it. The Capital Holder is the one you see in this post. It was given to me in the original cardboard box and it has the orginal tissue insert (faded and yellowed). The coins were the silver Roosies only, no clad. They were blast white and MS. I liked the holder because it has holes for the 1965, 1966 and 1967 D dimes. Thus I conclude that the Capital Holder was made and sold before the Mint announced no mint marks would be on 1965 and later coins. It had to have been made in 1964 or earlier. It is now at least 45 years old and it is in good shape. The cardboard box it came in has seen wear and it is patched with scotch tape.
So I was happy with a low cost set of MS silver Roosies.
Then a few weeks later I stopped by another local shop early one morning. The owner had a Whtiman Slide Album of Silver Roosies in his display case. I asked about it. He said he bought the set (in a bulk purchase) late in the afternoon the day before. He said that the seller had told him that the set had been assembled decades ago and had been intact ever since. I asked to look at the set. I saw that the coins were MS and that many had dark toning. I did not have a loupe with me and the shop had only overhead flourescent lighting. So when I looked at the coins, without a loupe, they looked "ok". I asked for a price and was quoted a very reasonable price ["a song" as it turns out]. I said I will take it, since I thought why not have some toned MS Roosies in addition to the blast white set I had picked up a few weeks earlier.
I took the set and later that day, after dark, under good lighting, with a loupe I looked at the coins, one at a time. Holy Cr*p is all I could say. What stunning toning on many of the coins. I realized I was very, very lucky in picking up the set. These coins sat in the Whtiman Slide Album for decades and developed the toning that you seen in Becoka's pictures.
I must say that Becoka's pictures are excellent. However, seeing these dimes in hand, under good lighting, and comparing same with Becoka's pictures of same just drives home the point made repeatedly on the forums. You simply can not tell how nice or bad a coin is from a picture. The toned silver dimes have color and/or luster that are just amazing. The pictures do not show how intense some of the color and the luster on some of these coins are.
So I compared the blast white set with the toned set and decided that I wanted the toners to be in the Capital Holder. I made the switch and am very pleased with having the toners in the Capital Holder.
I put the blast white coins into the Whitman slide album and maybe after 30-40 years (if I live that long) I will find that they have toned also.
Having the 48 MS 1946-64 silver coins left 8 holes in the Capital Holder to be filled with clads for 1965-1968. I thus looked through my MS clad dimes, some of which are SMS coins (with nice mirrors and frosted devices) and some of which are circulation strikes. I do not remember when or where I acquired the circulation strikes, some of them may have been plucked by me out of pocket change in the year they were made.
I have a 1965 SMS Cameo dime which has gorgeous peripheral toning (blue and gold), but that coin is in a Capital Mint Set holder with SMS Cameos of the cent through halves for 1965-67. I must admit that it would look good with the toned silver Roosies.
Maybe I will try to find 8 toned MS clad toned coins for 1965-1968 to place in the Capital Holder along with the toned silvers.
I showed the set to Becoka and others at the 4-2009 Santa Clara show during show and tell between forum members at the food tables. Becoka asked if he could photograph the coins this summer. I said sure. I met him a couple of weeks ago at the Fremont show and gave him the set. He has been working, late at night after his kids and wife turn in, to photograph the set. Lots of work he had put in. I can not thank him enough. He did a great job.
To see larger photos of the set and of the individual coins, click the link to Becoka's web site. Larger photos show off the coins even more.
I spent a long time looking at the Silver coins when I first picked up the set. I wrote down each date and mintmark and assigned my own grades to the coins. There are about 5-8 coins that I would grade 65 or above. I can't find the list right now and will have to find it and review it again.
So that is my story. I got lucky and have a very nice set of toned Roosies. Common coins they are, but they sure are fun to look at and go "Ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh, Look At The Pretty Colors." (where is my 1960's black light posters and my stoner records?
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
The roosies are not the first pictures of coins of mine posted of the forums. Years ago a picture of a 1950 Cameo proof Frankie was posted.
jom
Congrats, and thanks to Ben for the beautiful photos.
secondly, It's weird that the toning for the d/s/p mints are eerily similar to double mint set toning??? even though these coins toned together in a whitman album.
The '58s and '57s look just like mint set toning.
<< <i>First off, wonderful set!
secondly, It's weird that the toning for the d/s/p mints are eerily similar to double mint set toning??? even though these coins toned together in a whitman album.
The '58s and '57s look just like mint set toning.
It's impossible to know what they were in before the previous owner put them in the album.
I have a set similar but I think mine is a lower grade.
When I bought them they were all in an original blue album which I have kept.
I then decided to place them in a black capital holder.
Maybe I should send them to you, so you can image mine
Most are toned like this
Terrible images though
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I can only imagine what each coin looks like in hand...pictures are first class top notch you did an excellent job!!!
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If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
Ben, very nice images!!!
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you even found the 65-D, 66-D, and 67-D
<< <i>awesome
you even found the 65-D, 66-D, and 67-D >>
Empty slots needed filling, as noted in Sanctions history of this set this holder was produced before 1964 without any knowledge of changes coming.
When I brought the set to Santa Clara last spring and showed it to some fellow forumites, they all thought it was very nice "eye candy". Ben asked if he could take pictures of the Capital Holder and the individual coins over the summer. I said ok and then forgot about it for a couple of months. I remembered in late June or early July and sent Ben a PM asking if he still wanted to photograph the coins. He said yes and I met him in late July to deliver the set.
During the project he sent me updates via PM, including selected pictures. I started to get enthusiastic about his project and anxious to see the end result.
Very, very nice work on Ben's part.
When I saw the coins in the Whitman slide album for the first time in the local shop where I picked it up, the flourescent lighting, the dark blue color of the album pages, the small size of the dimes, the toning on the dimes [particularly the darker toning] and the fact that I wear reading glasses (can not see small things clearly without them) conspired to hide from me the eye appeal of the coins. It was not until late in the evening when I had time, proper lighting and a loupe that I was able to look at each coin. As I did I became more pleased with my purchase with each dime I picked up and looked at.
Again kudos to Ben and thanks for your kind words.
SanctionII.