Fedor I can't believe it....
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Fedor signs with Strikeforce. I'm done with considering him the best heavyweight in the world.
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Apparently Dana White commented by saying that fedor is a F***ng moron for signing with Strikeforce, results are less money than the UFC offered and lower end competition.
The one key element in the negotiations between the parties have been the idea that M1 will only give up Fedor if UFC CO-Promotes with them, essentially strong arming them into a business partnership with M1, profit sharing, etc..you get the picture.
I don't want to say it but Fedor's agent is not doing this for Fedor, it's a scandalous business strategy and has Russian mafia ties written all over it.
That's my take and that's all I'm going to say about it.
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<< <i>I guarantee money is not an issue. Some people may not like Dana White but Dana has signed most of the best fighters to the UFC. The bottom line is the Fedor camp wants the UFC to be co-promoted with M1. How stupid is that. Fedor is not the best Heavyweight in the world. You can not dodge the best fighters in the world. I have never really been sold on Fedor anyways. Now he is just padding his stats. If Fedor wanted to prove him self he could of signed a 3 fight contract with the UFC and been done with those 3 fights within the year and move on if thats what he wants. Lame. >>
Lemme see...undefeated guy with wins over 7 former UFC champs, along with Antonio Nogueira and Cro Cop or...
Guy with 5 or 6 career fights who's biggest win was against a 9000-year old man.
Yeah, somehow FEDOR is the guy with less credibility as a champ here.
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<< <i> it's a scandalous business strategy and has Russian mafia ties written all over it. >>
Oh, those Russians...
Fedor is the greatest if he only finish his career on the good foot....like previous poster said he's beaten the best at the time.
But the past few years.....Matt Lindland 190lb at Bodog, washed up Tim Sylvia, and KO highlight reel waiting to happen glass chin Arlovski is NOT credible.
When you are considered the BEST you need to fight the BEST, there is no substitute....and unfortunately for those critics...Strikeforce does not offer.
Allistair Overeem is not a legitimate top contender, he's not in any top 10 ranking for any weight division.
It all STINKS to me...I wouldve loved to see Fedor come in and wipe out Cro Cop for old times sake....Couture just because it's a legends match....Nog same deal....and Brock Lesnar because he is the future of the HW division. That would be solidifying your legacy!
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<< <i> it's a scandalous business strategy and has Russian mafia ties written all over it. >>
Oh, those Russians... >>
Trent,
It's been well known that Fedor's brother Alexander has ties with the mob...and I think it's well known in the Hockey world the extortion that goes on with Russian players.
It just stinks when it messes with the best MMA fighter in the world.
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It took many years and business dealings to get them to "agree" to fight each other.
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I mean honestly....???? Barnett voluntarily participated in the test....
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akuracy, I have no doubt about Russian ties... my comment stands, hah.
<< <i>There was something fishy about the Barnett incident last month....something tells me that they were never really going to fight....just a conspiracy theory I have.
It took many years and business dealings to get them to "agree" to fight each other. >>
LOTS of people have speculated that Affliction paid Barnett to intentionally flunk the test so they could cancel the show and cut their losses.
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<< <i>I guarantee money is not an issue. Some people may not like Dana White but Dana has signed most of the best fighters to the UFC. The bottom line is the Fedor camp wants the UFC to be co-promoted with M1. How stupid is that. Fedor is not the best Heavyweight in the world. You can not dodge the best fighters in the world. I have never really been sold on Fedor anyways. Now he is just padding his stats. If Fedor wanted to prove him self he could of signed a 3 fight contract with the UFC and been done with those 3 fights within the year and move on if thats what he wants. Lame. >>
Lemme see...undefeated guy with wins over 7 former UFC champs, along with Antonio Nogueira and Cro Cop or...
Guy with 5 or 6 career fights who's biggest win was against a 9000-year old man.
Yeah, somehow FEDOR is the guy with less credibility as a champ here.
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And I understand that. But because he has some wins over some good guys years ago, he can take the easy lower level route and continue with the " worlds best heavyweight title"...I dont think so. You have to continue fighting the best fighters in the heavyweight division to keep that title. And you think Strikeforce has the wrolds best heavyweights. WOW. Look fedor can do what he wants. But fighting Strikeforce fighters is not going to keep him as the "best".
And If your talking about Brock Lesnar beating a 9000 year old man (I take it you are talking about Randy here), He killed him. Brock has walked all over everybody in the UFC minus a leg lock from mir. And even in that fight he destroyed Mir. But lets stay on track. Fedor is dodging the best. Peroid. And one more thing. Fedor is not undefeated.
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<< <i>I guarantee money is not an issue. Some people may not like Dana White but Dana has signed most of the best fighters to the UFC. The bottom line is the Fedor camp wants the UFC to be co-promoted with M1. How stupid is that. Fedor is not the best Heavyweight in the world. You can not dodge the best fighters in the world. I have never really been sold on Fedor anyways. Now he is just padding his stats. If Fedor wanted to prove him self he could of signed a 3 fight contract with the UFC and been done with those 3 fights within the year and move on if thats what he wants. Lame. >>
Lemme see...undefeated guy with wins over 7 former UFC champs, along with Antonio Nogueira and Cro Cop or...
Guy with 5 or 6 career fights who's biggest win was against a 9000-year old man.
Yeah, somehow FEDOR is the guy with less credibility as a champ here.
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No one said that Lesnar had more credibility than Fedor. But let's embrace reality, the best in the world are fighting in the UFC. Fedor very well could be the best, but it sure appears that he is running from a great opportunity to prove it.
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<< <i>. And one more thing. Fedor is not undefeated. >>
Hey now...that is a low blow...Fedor's "loss" was noted as a no contest due to a cut the officials stopped the fight.
Fedor has never legitimately been in trouble during a fight....the only one that comes to mind is in Pride against the Japanese star (his name is slipping me) who clipped Fedor and made him stumble a few steps before he clinched and eventually won by RNC.
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<< <i>. And one more thing. Fedor is not undefeated. >>
Hey now...that is a low blow...Fedor's "loss" was noted as a no contest due to a cut the officials stopped the fight.
Fedor has never legitimately been in trouble during a fight....the only one that comes to mind is in Pride against the Japanese star (his name is slipping me) who clipped Fedor and made him stumble a few steps before he clinched and eventually won by RNC. >>
I understand that. But a record is a record. Like Bisping winning a decision over Hammel. Hammel killed him yet he has a lose for it on his record. I am not saying its right. its just how it is
<< <i>Fedor signs with Strikeforce. I'm done with considering him the best heavyweight in the world. >>
Fedor is the best pro heavyweight in the world..
Bodog, affliction now Strikeforce.....What argument does he have left? You tell me....
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some of the greats/champs Fedor has beat:
Nogueira
Arlovski
Kevin Randleman (Fedor actually survived the Randleplex)..
Tim Sylvia
Mark Coleman
Semmy Schilt
CroCop
Gary Goodridge
Herring
Babalu
the dude is 32 years old and could retire today as the greatest pro heavyweight ever..
can he be beaten? sure.. and there are better fighters completely unknown in dojos around the world, who have never fought an MMA fight, but as for the pros, he's #1 right now..
It is a stretch to call yourself "The Greatest" for beating ex champs that the UFC has decided to dump. The UFC is where it is at. If you want to be the best, You have to beat the best. You can not do that fighting in a second rate organization that is filled with fighters who the UFC did not want to sign.
It is hard to consider Heath Herring a champ after Brock Lesner do to him for 3 rounds. How can I take Herring seriously after Lesner just about killed him on the ground while hardly breaking a sweat. Herring is a joke and has not fought since that fight almost a year ago.
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As for Fedor, as great as he is, he will never get the recognition he would have gotten (even had he lost) fighting in the UFC. Now he fights UFC castoffs and wannabe's...how can anyone take that competition seriously?
Most fighters I'd say were avoiding something if they took the route he has...in his case, I just don't think he feels he has anything to prove if it isn't on his (or his management's) own terms.