help me decide, top five rookies!! in 4 major sports...

benderbroeth · July 29, 2009 12:56PM

ok i want to get the top 5 rookies pcards from the 4 major sports who should i go with... and babe ruth is out of the question..i have so far...(i mean that i want)
baseball
mantle, aaron, clemente, mays..who else?

basketball
wilt, oscar robertson, russell, jordan (i might sneak in maravich)

hockey
gordie howe, bobby hull, wayne...and....

football
unitas, nameth...and...

help me with some good ideas..

ZBob · July 29, 2009 1:19PM

#1 Rookie Card In Basketball Has To Be 1980 #6 Rookie With Bird & Magic Hands Down With DrJ In There.Jordan Then DrJ ,Big O Triple & Russell

SDSportsFan · July 29, 2009 1:34PM

Baseball:

Ted Williams, Pete Rose, Nolan Ryan, Stan Musial, Jackie Robinson

Basketball:

George Mikan, Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar), Larry Bird/Magic Johnson, Jerry West

Hockey:

Bobby Orr, Maurice Richard, Georges Vezina, Mario Lemieux, Patrick Roy, Mark Messier

Football:

Bronko Nagurski, Joe Montana, Bart Starr, Dan Marino, John Elway, Roger Staubach

Steve

PowderedH2O · July 29, 2009 3:29PM

The football list would have to include the greatest player in NFL history, MISTER Jim Brown.

PS: On the sig line... the Blazers got eliminated awhile back. Maybe a 2009-10 update is in order.

1954 · July 29, 2009 7:03PM

Richie Zisk, Willie Randolph, Sandy Aramos, Jose Canseco and Frank White - Baseball.

I only know baseball so I can not help out with the other sports.

Shane

Reese3333 · July 29, 2009 10:06PM

Football- Unitas, Jim Thorpe, Bronko Nagurski, Jim Brown, Walter Payton

Publius · July 29, 2009 11:05PM

<< Football- Unitas, Jim Thorpe, Bronko Nagurski, Jim Brown, Walter Payton >>

This is about perfect. The only card I think is missing is the Namath, but I have no idea who to bump from this list. Probably Payton, sadly

If we're talking top five rookies price wise, thats a whole different list

cwazzy · July 29, 2009 11:25PM

<< Baseball:

Ted Williams, Pete Rose, Nolan Ryan, Stan Musial, Jackie Robinson

Steve >>

I'm not sure that it's even legal to have a baseball list that didn't include Mantle and/or Mays.

rexvos · July 29, 2009 11:37PM

Football:
Unitas, Namath, Brown, Payton, Grange

epatmythes · July 29, 2009 11:53PM

Baseball: Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Sandy Koufax
Football: Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Gale Sayers, Walter Payton, Joe Montana
Basketball: Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Oscar Robertson, Bird/Magic, Michael Jordan
Hockey: Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard, Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux

WeekendHacker · July 30, 2009 2:26AM

<< Richie Zisk, Willie Randolph, Sandy Aramos, Jose Canseco and Frank White - Baseball.

I only know baseball so I can not help out with the other sports.

Shane >>

You forgot to mention Mario Mendoza, afterall, there is a BA named after him.

WeekendHacker · July 30, 2009 2:27AM

<< Baseball:

Hockey:

Bobby Orr, Maurice Richard, Georges Vezina, Mario Lemieux, Patrick Roy, Mark Messier

Steve >>

Howe does Gretzky not make this list?

benderbroeth · July 30, 2009 2:44AM

<< 

<< Baseball:

Hockey:

Bobby Orr, Maurice Richard, Georges Vezina, Mario Lemieux, Patrick Roy, Mark Messier

Steve >>

Howe does Gretzky not make this list? >>

or for that matter gordie howe..lol

SDSportsFan · July 30, 2009 4:50AM

cwazzy, WeekendHacker and benderbroeth...

I was simply listing players that the OP did not have in his post.

Steve

FavreFan1971 · July 30, 2009 5:45AM

I only know football but the way I see this list is it should be the 5 cards that changed the hobby, drive the hobby, are the cards that people think of when they think football cards. What are the f5 pivotal football cards?

Everyone thinks of the Joe Montana rookie when they think of football cards. They also think of Namath. In my mind those are the two most "public" cards. You show those to a non-card collector, they know these cards just like the 52 Mantle.

Now for the other three.

1. Montana
2. Namath
3. Jim Brown
4. Bart Starr
5. Walter Payton

BigDaddyBowman · July 30, 2009 6:00AM

NAMATH =OVER RATED

I have never owned the card..and probably never will. He was over rated..and its almost criminal the price his card fetches. Give me a Nagurski, Grange, Baugh, Luckman, Graham and Brown any day over the Namath. There would probably be about 15 more that I would rather have than Namath.

FavreFan1971 · July 30, 2009 6:16AM

<< NAMATH =OVER RATED

I have never owned the card..and probably never will. He was over rated..and its almost criminal the price his card fetches. Give me a Nagurski, Grange, Baugh, Luckman, Graham and Brown any day over the Namath. There would probably be about 15 more that I would rather have than Namath. >>

I can't agree more. But his card has a high demand behind it.

Publius · July 30, 2009 6:49AM

<< NAMATH =OVER RATED

I have never owned the card..and probably never will. He was over rated..and its almost criminal the price his card fetches. Give me a Nagurski, Grange, Baugh, Luckman, Graham and Brown any day over the Namath. There would probably be about 15 more that I would rather have than Namath. >>

i agree with you BDB. There will always be varying opinions on this but like it or not, Namath is one of THE most recognized and costly cards out there...

Example, I know the 52 mantle, the T206 wagner, etc baseball cards, the Gretzky and Howe in hockey, the Kareem, Jordan and Mikan in BB....etc

What are the top 5 football cards that are universally known? Some guys are listing Montana on here, I dont even think Montana is a top 20 card. Add in Layne, Bednarik, Dunlop, Gifford... the list goes on and on. Probably to modern collectiors the Elway, Marino and Montana are most known.

Man this is a slippery slope of a conversation

Love it!

benderbroeth · July 30, 2009 10:20AM

i prefer the vintage cards myself...

MBMiller25 · July 30, 2009 10:27AM

Baseball= Stan Musial needs to be added to your list.

shagrotn77 · July 30, 2009 11:56AM

Geez, why does nobody have Babe Ruth on their list? Sporting News is widely recognized as his rookie.

cyots82 · July 30, 2009 12:40PM

<< ok i want to get the top 5 rookies pcards from the 4 major sports who should i go with... and babe ruth is out of the question..i have so far...(i mean that i want)
baseball
mantle, aaron, mays..who else? Williams, Ryan and also need to add Ripken Topps Traded!

basketball
wilt, oscar robertson, russell, jordan (i might sneak in maravich) Bird/Johnson, Dr. J

hockey
gordie howe, bobby hull, wayne...and... Lemieux, Orr

football
unitas, nameth...and... Brown, Butkus, Rice

help me with some good ideas.. >>

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benderbroeth · July 30, 2009 2:00PM

basically i do not think i can afford a ruth rookie. and i already have a ty cobb t-205.

NickM · July 30, 2009 5:40PM

My list is just about the quality of the player, not the value of the card.

Baseball: Williams, Mays, Rickey Henderson, Aaron, Cobb

Basketball: Bird/Magic, Chamberlain, Jordan, Russell, LeBron James

Football: Favre, Rice, Reggie White, Jim Brown, Munoz

Hockey: Gretzky, Roy, Howe, Orr, Mario Lemieux

Nick

benderbroeth · July 31, 2009 12:05PM

i have decided to change the basketball to 10 because it is the sport i like most.

SDSportsFan · July 31, 2009 1:17PM

Another basketball card to consider is the 1933 Sport Kings Nat Holman. He's the only basketball HOFer in the set, and was a Celtic.

Steve

Davemri · July 31, 2009 11:03PM

<< Another basketball card to consider is the 1933 Sport Kings Nat Holman. He's the only basketball HOFer in the set, and was a Celtic. >>

Joe Lopchick is also in this set

SDSportsFan · August 1, 2009 9:03AM

<< 

<< Another basketball card to consider is the 1933 Sport Kings Nat Holman. He's the only basketball HOFer in the set, and was a Celtic. >>

Joe Lopchick is also in this set >>

You're right!

I looked at the Sport Kings set in the PSA Registry, and Holman is the only basketball player identified as a HOFer. Lopchick was inducted in 1966. I guess PSA needs to update the set list in the Registry to reflect this.

Steve

rbdjr1 · August 1, 2009 1:11PM

<< Geez, why does nobody have Babe Ruth on their list? Sporting News is widely recognized as his rookie. >>

I agree

Top five baseball rookies (pleeeeeze add the Babe from a baseball RC "point of view" to any list!)

The Sultan of Swat's rookie card would be on my list!

rd

Pink Floyd - Money

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

rbdjr1 · August 1, 2009 1:29PM

Add Rose to a top five baseball rookie list!

And again, from a baseball RC "point of view":

Baseball: How about adding the only and only PSA 10 RC of Mr. Pete Rose? I'd pay 100K for it! If I won the Florida Lotto!

rd

here's a PSA 8 example;

Pink Floyd - Money

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

rbdjr1 · August 1, 2009 9:49PM

Leave Mickey Mantle off of a "top five rookie list"?

Not my list!

I'd say his '51 Bowman rookie card is

And I threw-in a pic of Mick's '52 Topps card, just for the joy of it!

rd

Pink Floyd - Money

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

rbdjr1 · August 1, 2009 10:25PM

Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and Ty Cobb can "fight it out" for a spot in the "top five rookies" list.

Their rookie cards not to shabby either!

rd

Pink Floyd - Money

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

perkdog · August 2, 2009 4:05AM

Baseball- Ruth, Mantle, Aaron, Mays, Williams
Football- Nagurski, Brown, Graham, Unitas, .................................Brady

Baskets- Bird/Magic, Jordan, Wilt, Robertson, Russell
Hockey- Gretzky, Mario, Howe, Orr, Roy

benderbroeth · August 2, 2009 6:36AM

wow thank you everyone i will make my final list known soon...

BigDaddyBowman · August 2, 2009 8:07AM

Baseball-Cobb, Ruth, Mantle, Aaron
Football-Nagurski, Grange, Unitas, Brown
Basketball-Bird/Magic, Chamberlin, Jordan, Russell
Hockey-Gretsky, Howe, Orr, ?? (not really a hockey guy)

Nascar360 · August 2, 2009 9:46AM

No NASCAR?
1) Richard Petty (200 Wins, 7 Championships) (#1 in wins with the next person 95 wins behind)
2) Dale Earnhardt (76 Wins, 7 Championships)
3) Jeff Gordon (82 Wins, 4 Championships)
4) David Pearson (105 Wins, 3 Championships) (#2 in wins)
5) Darrell Waltrip (84 Wins, 3 Championships)

The NASCAR HOF opens in 2010. Get you Petty's & Earnhardt' now!

EB22 · August 2, 2009 9:46AM

Basketball:

1. Elgin Baylor 1961 Fleer

2. Larry Bird / Magic Johnson 1980 Topps with Dr. J

3. Bill Russell 1957 Topps

4. Wilt Chamberlain 1961 Fleer

5. Michael Jordan 1985 Star

41GoudeyGuy · August 4, 2009 4:12AM

Baseball: Greg Jeffries, Todd Van Poppell, Brien Taylor, Kevin Maas and Sam Horn

1954 · August 4, 2009 5:00AM

41 Goudey - Are you crazy? You can't put Maas in that group. Jefferies yes, Maas no.

Shane

smtjoy · August 4, 2009 6:49AM

Nice way to collect, I'm very close to yours-

Baseball-Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Clemente and Cobb
Football- Unitas, Brown, Montana, Payton, Grange
Basketball-Bird/Magic, Big O, Jordan, Russell, Dr J
Hockey-Gretsky, Howe, Orr, Lemieux, Roy

41GoudeyGuy · August 5, 2009 4:57AM

<< 41 Goudey - Are you crazy? You can't put Maas in that group. Jefferies yes, Maas no.

Shane >>

I thought Maas was a no-brainer and the debate would be whether to bump Sam Horn for Hensley Muelens. Guess I'm biased by my Cal connection with Maas.

help me decide, top five rookies!! in 4 major sports...

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