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PL and DMPL definition

ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Hi,

Not having my handy guide with me right now could anyone provide a quick definition of the 2 for me? Thanks!

K
ANA LM

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who's definition? I can never remember what they actrually are.
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look here
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got this info from here

    Semi-Prooflike (SPL) - 1 to 2 inches, devices must be frosted
    Prooflike (PL) - 2 to 4 inches of reflectivity
    Deep Mirror Prooflike (DMPL) - More than 4 inches
    Ultra Prooflike (UPL) - At least 8 inches


    I thought a DMPL was 6 inches?
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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does the 'devices must be frosted' extend to the PL and DMPL? The reason I am asking is I was looking through my various 1879-S Morgans in my grading set and I have a PCGS MS 63 in an OGH that has superb mirrors as well as some frosting...but the frosting is broken a bit and the coin is accurately graded as a 63. Just trying to understand how it would grade today with the designations as they were not available back in the OGH days (if my info is correct). I could crack it and resubmit and see what PCGS says but we are talking about a 79-S here!

    Thanks!

    K
    ANA LM
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What grade was not available in the OGH holder days?

    The frostiness of the devices should no change the PL or DMPL grade. However it can add soem wonderful eye appeal and may help[ the overal grade. Be careful of luster breaks in the fields as that can really hurt the chances for the designation.
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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What grade was not available in the OGH holder days?

    I stand corrected...I noticed your 81-O that is on the bst...nice coin! For some reason I had it in my mind that the PL and DMPL designations came about later than the rattler/OGH days.

    K
    ANA LM
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Devices DO NOT need to be frosted to receive PL or DMPL desginations.

    I believe PCGS' current standard for mirror depth on a DMPL is 8'', both sides of course.

    NGC's standards are less strict for their DPL designation.



  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489 ✭


    << <i>I thought a DMPL was 6 inches? >>



    Don't sell yourself short, young fella....image

    Thanks for the link...
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    DMPL was 6 inches, PCGS has toughened

    standard to the now 8 inches. I believe that this

    was a good move and reflects what a true DMPL

    should really look like.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage

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