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What do you think of this one 1837-P Half dime ?

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think i would like to own it. Great Pictures !image
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    extremely high grade.

    the only possible red flag is the surfaces of the obverse look a bit funny (slight chance of whizzing?).
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can't tell much from that photo other than it is a high details grade and has a few small rim dings.

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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    What do I think of it? I like it. I like it a lot. The original Christian Gobrecht design, without the thirteen stars on the obverse, was uncluttered and beautiful, particularly for such a small coin. Sadly, the Liberty Seated design went down hill from here.

    This coin exhibits the so called "Small Date", a misnomer which confuses many collectors. The date numerals are not really any smaller than those used previously on the "Large Date" varieties (V1, V2, V3). The "Large Date" numeral punches were left over from the Capped Bust half dime series of the previous nine years, and are most easily identified by the tall pointed peak to the top of the 1 digit. They were used on the very first Liberty Seated half dimes of 1837, for die marriages V1, V2, and V3, until new date numeral punches were fabricated. The so called "Small Date" numeral punches, made specifically for the new Liberty Seated design, are characterized by a flat top to the 1 in the date, and were used on die marriages V4, V5, and V6, and for all dates thereafter.

    My guess would be that your coin is an example of the Valentine V5 "Small Date". What might appear as rim damage on the obverse at K3-K5 is actually rim cuds, and is not post Mint damage.

    There is a certain degree of uncertainty in the descriptions of Dr. Valentine's V4 and V5 die marriages which still must be researched further. Accordingly, your coin could be an example of the V4, but it does not appear to have the reverse die of V2, with the doubled bases of T2 and A2, so my guess is V5. It most certainly is not V6, which is characterized by a badly rusted and crumbled obverse die.

    I assume the copper bronze color is a lighting phenomenon, and that the coin is actually a nice silver color in hand.

    Nice coin!
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The fields, especially the obverse are remarkably free of nicks, scrapes, lines, scratches, etc... I can't remember that last time I saw an 1837 with such clean fields.
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-58 to MS-64..............Dipped.
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What do I think of it? I like it. I like it a lot. The original Christian Gobrecht design, without the thirteen stars on the obverse, was uncluttered and beautiful, particularly for such a small coin. Sadly, the Liberty Seated design went down hill from here.

    This coin exhibits the so called "Small Date", a misnomer which confuses many collectors. The date numerals are not really any smaller than those used previously on the "Large Date" varieties (V1, V2, V3). The "Large Date" numeral punches were left over from the Capped Bust half dime series of the previous nine years, and are most easily identified by the tall pointed peak to the top of the 1 digit. They were used on the very first Liberty Seated half dimes of 1837, for die marriages V1, V2, and V3, until new date numeral punches were fabricated. The so called "Small Date" numeral punches, made specifically for the new Liberty Seated design, are characterized by a flat top to the 1 in the date, and were used on die marriages V4, V5, and V6, and for all dates thereafter.

    My guess would be that your coin is an example of the Valentine V5 "Small Date". What might appear as rim damage on the obverse at K3-K5 is actually rim cuds, and is not post Mint damage.

    There is a certain degree of uncertainty in the descriptions of Dr. Valentine's V4 and V5 die marriages which still must be researched further. Accordingly, your coin could be an example of the V4, but it does not appear to have the reverse die of V2, with the doubled bases of T2 and A2, so my guess is V5. It most certainly is not V6, which is characterized by a badly rusted and crumbled obverse die.

    I assume the copper bronze color is a lighting phenomenon, and that the coin is actually a nice silver color in hand.

    Nice coin! >>

    Thanks for all the info I am going to send it in let's see what it Grades. image

    Yes it is nice Silver looking it is the lighting.


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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMHO it's a beautiful example! image
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    I'd be careful that the images are hiding some things? Looks too nice and the color is off.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Some more pic. I just dont know but will send it in and see. image


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  • Very nice, I think it's a keeper. Please keep us posted on the grade when you get it. Also, cool info MrHalfDime...image
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Dipped, but probably acceptable to the TPGs. Great detail!

    Your second set of pics are far nicer than the first
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Second pics are a much better depiction of the coin. Cant tell if there is wear from the pics but could grade from 58-62. JMHO.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it. Much much nicer than my no stars half dime image

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What rec78 and others said.


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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would send it in.

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