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Orel Hershiser Threw 169 Pitches During One Start In 1989

JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
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An ESPN column states that Orel Hershiser threw 169 pitches during one start in 1989. A far cry from the 259 pitches Nolan Ryan reportedly threw in a 1974 game, but still impressive nonetheless.

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the more I read about players from 20 years ago (and further back), the more I respect them. I think Tiant threw 160+ pitches in the 1975 WS
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    Bottom9thBottom9th Posts: 2,695 ✭✭
    Wow, that hurts my arm just thinking about it
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    digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    October 1, 1989.
    Hershiser's stat line at the end of the game looked like this:

    11 innings
    10 hits
    1 run
    3 walks
    8 strikeouts
    1 hbp

    He got pulled in the 12th inning for a pinch hitter, and the Dodgers took the lead, so Orel got the win.
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    greencrowgreencrow Posts: 867
    Happy 54th Orel.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back in the late 1960s and early 1970s, The White Sox had a left handed knuckler- Wilbur Wood. I remember him starting both games of a doubleheader- I suspect he may have the MLB Record for most pitches in a single day- possibly even a game. He would be my guess as the post 1960 timeframe record holder for pitches

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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Here are some interesting statistics regarding this topic.

    1. In 1974, according to beat writers in attendance, Ryan threw 259 pitches in a 12-inning win over Kansas City.

    2. On May 1, 1920, Brooklyn and Boston played a 1-1 tie that lasted 26 innings. Incredibly, pitchers Leon Cadore and Joe Oeschger each went the distance. Historians estimate that Cadore threw 345 pitches, Oeschger 319.

    3. In a 1963 matchup between the Giants' Juan Marichal and the Braves' Warren Spahn, each went the distance in a 16-inning game that ended on Willie Mays' homer. Marichal threw 227 pitches that night, and there was a point when his catcher, Ed Bailey, told him, "Don't let them take you out. Win or lose, this is great.

    4. April 27, 1993: Pirates knuckler Tim Wakefield tossed 172 pitches over 10+ innings in a 6-2 victory against the Atlanta Braves at Atlanta-Fulton County stadium. (Wakefield scored one of four Pirate runs in the 11th inning but was lifted after walking the first two batters in the bottom of the 11th.).

    5. In the playoffs, the record is held by Luis Tiant, who threw 163 pitches in Game 4 of the 1975 World Series, a complete-game win for the Red Sox.

    6. Tom Cheney of the Washington Senators threw 228 pitches in a 16 inning complete game victory over the Baltimore Orioles in 1962. In this game Cheney struck out 21 batters which, as of 2010, is the MLB record for most batters struck out by a pitcher in a game.




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    CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070 ✭
    Happy birthday, bulldog! I need to get your basic set finished dang it! These kids suck up all the money though.
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a whole season for Strasburg! image
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    estangestang Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭
    Blyleven, an announcer for the Twins is anti-pitch count and scoffs at how overblown this has become.

    The game has changed and relievers are more prevalent, but I tend to agree with Bert. Problem is there may not be enough quality starters that deserve high pitch counts.

    And to think these guys did this on 4-man rotations with less rest...



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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭


    << <i>MLB Innings Pitched Leaders by Year >>


    Gotta love these three consecutive years:
    1892 (NL)......... Bill Hutchinson (CHC) 622.0
    1891 (NL AA).... Bill Hutchinson (CHC) 561.0
    1890 (NL AA PL) Bill Hutchinson (CHC) 603.0
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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>MLB Innings Pitched Leaders by Year >>


    Gotta love these three consecutive years:
    1892 (NL)......... Bill Hutchinson (CHC) 622.0
    1891 (NL AA).... Bill Hutchinson (CHC) 561.0
    1890 (NL AA PL) Bill Hutchinson (CHC) 603.0 >>


    Go back a couple more years to the season Charles Radbourn had in 1884:

    75 games, 73 starts, 72 complete games. 59-12 record, 1.38 ERA, 678.2 innings pitched. He threw 632 innings the previous year.

    Radbourn's 1884 season is the subject of an outstanding book that I am currently reading:

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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That's a whole season for Strasburg! image >>



    While I'll never wish injury upon a player, nor celebrate it, that was funny.

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That's a whole season for Strasburg! image >>



    While I'll never wish injury upon a player, nor celebrate it, that was funny.

    image >>



    Not due to injury, due to the Nationals stupid limiting of innings for him. If they lose the WS in 7 games with no Strasburg, Nats fans will be livid!
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    EstilEstil Posts: 6,922 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>An ESPN column states that Orel Hershiser threw 169 pitches during one start in 1989. A far cry from the 259 pitches Nolan Ryan reportedly threw in a 1974 game, but still impressive nonetheless.

    /s/ JackWESQ >>



    And let me guess, at the time (even in 1989) no one even gave it a second thought. But I guess you can't fault MLB teams too much for being careful with pitchers' arms. After all, there's a reason the top pitchers command $10M+ a season (there just aren't that many out there to go around) so why risk FUBARing your investment if you don't have to? After all teams now have all kinds of setup men and closers and so on.
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    larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭
    I thought Jacky was coming back to post... until I saw the date. Nice to see some respect for a Dodger great by a Giant's fan. image
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    greencrowgreencrow Posts: 867
    Happy birthday Orel.
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    TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    Baseball is a mess now IMO. No wonder, I've lost interest.

    Does anyone remember Bob Welch winning 26 or 27 games in 1990 I think it was? Nolan Ryan threw his 7th no hitter when he was 44. You wonder how a guy in his 40's could do that, while every young pitcher now is told to limit his pitches?? It doesn't make any sense.

    I remember the braves staff of the early 90's. Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, Maddux? They complemented each other well. The game now seems way over managed.
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    EstilEstil Posts: 6,922 ✭✭✭✭
    While it's fairly well known that Denny McCain's 1968 campaign is the last ever 30 win season, hardly anyone remembers that Bob Welch in 1990 remains the last 25 game winner.
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    Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
    Quarters: 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
    74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
    1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
    1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
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    UnwoundSageUnwoundSage Posts: 496


    << <i>While it's fairly well known that Denny McCain's 1968 campaign is the last ever 30 win season, hardly anyone remembers that Bob Welch in 1990 remains the last 25 game winner. >>



    Although someone will probably get to 25 again, no one will ever reach 30 wins in a season again. Most staff aces are lucky to get over 30 starts in a season and none got 35 starts this season.
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