Guess the grade and win some W4I copper - winner in last post!!!

TwoKopeiki

Well, I'm finally back up North (crossing the border was a breeze) and ready to send a couple of PCGS submissions with a goal of adding to my Mexico set, which has been falling behind Rosswb and Dizzlecc (ADD SOME PICTURES, GUYS!!!!) for a few months now. Seeing how I helped B.J. with setting that one up, I feel a personal responsibility to catch-up and kick some a#$

So, in a spirit of Mexico - a small contest.

Whoever comes closest to guessing the combined grades of these two coins wins a nifty War of Independence copper 1 Real (SUD).

Here are some photos to help you guess. I'm not 100% happy with the way the photos turned-out, but blaming it on being very rusty with macro photography and still lacking a proper set-up

Coin #1 - 1759 Mexico Pillar 8 Reales:


Coin #2 - 1824 Mexico Hookneck 8 Reales:


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Prize:

ASUtodd

MS63 and XF 40.... I love guessing...

silverpop

MS60 and AU55

BS

AU53 & AU55 Great looking coins.

FilthyBroke

I'm gonna say 62 and 53. Thanks for the chance!

Bailathacl

63 & 58 and both nice nice nice

farthing

55 & 45

Hussulo

Lovely eye appeal on them both.

I'll go 55 and 53.

zeebob

<< <i>55 & 45 >>



Ya beat me to it!

olmanjon

thanks for the chance-63 and 40.
Olmanjon
I meant 62 and 40. sorry

ormandh

58 and 53 assuming that that is rub in the fields. Good contest!

Walmann

58 and 45, nice looking coins.

Coinguy19

63 and 45, very nice looking coins. Thanks for the contest.

smet

55 and 40

coinkat

First - AU53 and the second is AU50

savoyspecial

62 and 50

7Jaguars

55 and 62.

TwoKopeiki

Bump!

ajaan

116

TwoKopeiki

So, Don, you think that one of them will go 70 and the other 46? What kind of whacko grading system is that?

ajaan

Just following the direction Roman:



<< <i>Whoever comes closest to guessing the combined grades of these two coins wins a nifty War of Independence copper >>



I'm combining (adding) the grades and getting 116.

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>Just following the direction Roman:



<< <i>Whoever comes closest to guessing the combined grades of these two coins wins a nifty War of Independence copper >>



I'm combining (adding) the grades and getting 116. >>



I'm just messing with you, Don

I wonder if it would be more accurate to combine the difference in individual grade guesses to get the lowest score to win the coin.

ASUtodd

How about whoever is closest to the actual grades If someone ties with another poster then look who posted the grade first. Of course, this is YOUR contest and not mine! Thanks for the chance.

OzzyAndy

I'll go 61 and 55.

Andrew

TwoKopeiki

Received today, but not in the system yet. I put it under the 5-day express service.

dizzlecc

I'll guess 53 and 45, just to be a little different from the crowd. About time you provide some competition. Nice coins, I look forward to hearing about the grades.

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>About time you provide some competition. >>



Add the photos already

TwoKopeiki

Only a few days left (hopefully) until grades and images are available.

I think I will re-define the qualification requirement for winning that 1 Real.

The winner will be a person with the lowest score when combined the absolute value of the differences between individual grade. Also, in case of a tie - the main prize will go to the first person that posted their guess, but smaller conselation prizes will be awarded to those that tied.

score = abs(actual grade 1 - guessed grade 1) + abs(actual grade 2 - guessed grade 2)

For ease of use, let's call the actual grades "X". Also, this way I can just quickly do a replace of all X1 and X2 with the posted grades.

Current scores:

ASUtodd = abs(X1 - 63) + abs(X2 - 40) =
silverpop = abs(X1 - 60) + abs(X2 - 55) =
BS = abs(X1 - 53) + abs(X2 - 55) =
FilthyBroke = abs(X1 - 62) + abs(X2 - 53) =
Bailathacl = abs(X1 - 63) + abs(X2 - 58) =
farthing = abs(X1 - 55) + abs(X2 - 45) =
Hussulo = abs(X1 - 55) + abs(X2 - 53) =
zeebob = abs(X1 - 55) + abs(X2 - 45) =
olmanjon = abs(X1 - 62) + abs(X2 - 40) =
ormandh = abs(X1 - 58) + abs(X2 - 53) =
Walmann = abs(X1 - 58) + abs(X2 - 45) =
Coinguy19 = abs(X1 - 63) + abs(X2 - 45) =
smet = abs(X1 - 55) + abs(X2 - 40) =
justanothercoinaddict = abs(X1 - 58) + abs(X2 - 45) =
coinkat = abs(X1 - 53) + abs(X2 - 50) =
savoyspecial = abs(X1 - 62) + abs(X2 - 50) =
7Jaguars = abs(X1 - 55) + abs(X2 - 62) =
ajaan = abs(X1 - 116) + abs(X2 - 0) = <~~ Don, let me know if you were thinking of a different break-down
OzzyAndy = abs(X1 - 61) + abs(X2 - 55) =
dizzlecc = abs(X1 - 53) + abs(X2 - 45) =

ajaan

I'm sticking to my original. I like the abs. value thing though. If the second coin is BBed as PCGS 0, is everything still a go?

TwoKopeiki

Everything is still a go. If any of the coins are BB'ed - the actual grade value is set to 0.

coinkat

huh?

TwoKopeiki

Grades are in - 45 and 45. I was hoping for a 50-53 from the pillar, but the lack of luster prevented it from getting that grade. With the hookneck, the reverse is the reason it didn't go AU. While there are traces of luster on the obverse, the reverse is gull grey.

This brings us to ...

Current scores:

ASUtodd = abs(45 - 63) + abs(45 - 40) = 18+5 = 23
silverpop = abs(45 - 60) + abs(45 - 55) = 15+10 = 25
BS = abs(45 - 53) + abs(45 - 55) = 8+10 = 18
FilthyBroke = abs(45 - 62) + abs(45 - 53) = 17+8 = 25
Bailathacl = abs(45 - 63) + abs(45 - 58) = 18+13 = 31
farthing = abs(45 - 55) + abs(45 - 45) = 10+0 = 10
Hussulo = abs(45 - 55) + abs(45 - 53) = 10+8 = 18
zeebob = abs(45 - 55) + abs(45 - 45) = 10+0 = 10
olmanjon = abs(45 - 62) + abs(45 - 40) = 17+5 = 22
ormandh = abs(45 - 58) + abs(45 - 53) = 13+8 = 21
Walmann = abs(45 - 58) + abs(45 - 45) = 13+0 = 13
Coinguy19 = abs(45 - 63) + abs(45 - 45) = 18+0 = 18
smet = abs(45 - 55) + abs(45 - 40) = 10+5 =15
justanothercoinaddict = abs(45 - 58) + abs(45 - 45) = 13+0 = 13
coinkat = abs(45 - 53) + abs(45 - 50) = 8+5 = 13
savoyspecial = abs(45 - 62) + abs(45 - 50) = 17+5 = 22
7Jaguars = abs(45 - 55) + abs(45 - 62) = 10+17 = 27
ajaan = abs(45 - 116) + abs(45 - 0) = 71+45 = 116 (interestingly enough)
OzzyAndy = abs(45 - 61) + abs(45 - 55) = 16+10 = 26

dizzlecc = abs(45 - 53) + abs(45 - 45) = 8+0 = 8


Congratulations, DIZZLECC!!!!

PM me with your mailing info and i'll have your winnings out to you shortly.

TwoKopeiki

P.S. True View images are coming shortly.

coinkat

Huh?

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>Huh?



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coinkat

On a serious note... I would like to see them in hand to see if 45 on both is just alittle too tough.

TwoKopeiki

The pillar was a definite 45 in my opinion. The color is nice, but the surfaces lack luster completely.

The hook-neck was in an NGC45 holder before i cracked it out, because the obverse had luster. I was hoping that would bump it up to at least 50, but apparently not.

Hopefully True View shots will give you a better idea. My images have been lacking severely ever since I got rid of my photo set-up.

dizzlecc

Yeah me.

They are nice coins. I'm jealous. I think the grades were a little tough.

Thanks again for the contest. It was fun.

TwoKopeiki

Links to: Medium Sized and Large pillar.



Links to: Medium Sized and Large hookneck.

WWW

Best looking XF45 Hook-Neck I have seen.

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>Best looking XF45 Hook-Neck I have seen. >>



Thanks, Bill!