Pete Rose - HOF 2010? What happens to his card values?

ndleo

Hank on Pete Rose

Reports out of Cooperstown suggest that Selig may reinstate Rose, which means he will be HOF eligible.

If the Hit King does get in will his cards see a spike in value? I can see demand for his RC go crazy if this happens.

VitoCo1972

I don't think you would see much change in card value. BUT, I also don't think he will get in - even if eligible. He would need overwhelming support to make it through the veterans committee process and he has a lot of people who do not support him there.

artimus

Michael Vick gets reinstated.....but Rose is still out?......wow.......

csmtampa

I think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

I don't see much of a boost in his autograph value, as he has MILLIONS of items out there.

stevek

I'm only supporting him if he goes in as a Phillie.

artimus

I have to respectfully disagree on both points.....If he got in, his cards would get added to all the HOF registry sets.......I think there would be a definite spike in his cards.....I also think that if he was officially reinstated and thereby eligible, he would get in by a huge margin on the first vote......every time there is a HOF discussion, Rose's name is on the top of many lists for most deserving.....including mine......I think with all of this era's steroid accusations and admissions, his sins seem smaller, and his baseball accomplishments that much greater......

VitoCo1972

The more I think about it - here's where it gets really interesting regardless of the Hall of Fame. If he's reinstated, card companies can produce licensed Pete rose cards and On-card autos. I know Sport Kings had one a year ago but it was unlicensed. I bet there would be a bidding war between UD and Topps for his signature on cards.

stevek

Card values will go up, just a question of how much - the 63 rookie card could soar.

calaban7

I would be willing to bet , that Pete would be willing to bet , that his supporters are hoping and BETTING that his card values go up , if the agreement that Pete signed is negated.

He was a great ball player , that ended up using the game we love , for his own benefit . I know all the other things that many of the other HOFers did, but Pete's actions cut to the core of the value of the game.

Read the Dowd report , yourself . Pete never denied what was in the report. He is unrepentent . He is still the same selfish creature he alway was.

If he gets into the HOF , then so be it. If his card values rise, so be it.

He's still Pete Rose , with all the deeds that show what he was.

P.S.---- He was and will always be a better baseball player , than most of us other mere humans will ever dream of. I liked him as a player , but I did not like as a person.

ChrisStufflestreet

Without debating whether Rose gets reinstated or not...

This smells like something cooked up by the Commissioner's office to help deflect the attention from Selig's complicity in allowing the steroid saga to grow into the monster it became...

But that's just me talking stupid.

EB22

I don't know if an induction to the HOF does anything to card value these days... I have seen with most basketball players, where they get inducted and the card prices don't really do anything, maybe go a tiny bit higher for about a month or two and then go back to normal, but the increase is very small. Maybe this is different for baseball, don't know.

itzagoner

hustle Charlie, hustle.

PoppaJ

I've been to Cooperstown quite a few times in my life, and at least seven times since Pete's banishment from MLB.

Each time I visit the Baseball HOF, it seems so ironic that there are tons of displays, photos, memorabilia, and records of this baseball phenom everywhere you look; everything but a plaque!

This is the guy that taught the baseball world to hustle; to play with pride; to slide head first; to challenge every pitcher to throw his best pitch; to play each and every game like it was game 7 of the World Series!

I'm well aware of the sign that is posted in every MLB dugout, but it needs a long overdue overhaul/update if you will.

Pete's record of 4256 hits will NEVER be broken .... nor will Nolan Ryan's 7 No-Hitters/12 1-Hitters/5714 Career Strikeouts .... or Rickey Henderson's 1406 Career Stolen Bases .... or Cal Ripken Jr's 2632 continuous Games Played .... etc. etc.

After hearing Aaron's comments, coupled with the backing of Mike Schmidt and the endless efforts of Joe Morgan and a few other HOFers, I'd say Pete should be entering the Hall in the very near future.

Here's a partial list of players who are eligible for consideration for the Hall of Fame by the baseball writers in coming years:

2010: Roberto Alomar, Barry Larkin, Robin Ventura, Edgar Martinez, Fred McGriff, Kevin Appier, Ellis Burks, Ray Lankford, Pat Hentgen, Todd Zeile, Eric Karros, Mark McLemore, Andres Galarraga, Fernando Vina, Mike Jackson, Shane Reynolds, Dave Burba, David Segui, Andy Ashby

2011: Jeff Bagwell, Rafael Palmeiro, John Olerud, Kevin Brown, Larry Walker, Juan Gonzalez, Tino Martinez, B.J. Surhoff, Marquis Grissom, John Franco, Bret Boone, Al Leiter, Benito Santiago, Carlos Baerga, Raul Mondesi, Bobby Higginson, Wilson Alvarez, Rey Sanchez, Charles Johnson, Jose Offerman, Ugueth Urbina, Ismael Valdez, Dan Wilson, Paul Quantrill, Cal Eldred, Kirk Rueter, Steve Reed

2012: Bernie Williams, Tim Salmon, Brad Radke, Javy Lopez, Edgardo Alfonzo, Ruben Sierra, Vinny Castilla, Scott Erickson, Jeff Fassero, Joe Randa, Jeromy Burnitz, Eric Young, Brian Jordan, Bill Mueller, Matt Lawton, Jose Hernandez, Phil Nevin, Alex S. Gonzalez, Pedro Astacio, Carl Everett, David Bell, Rick Helling, Jose Vizcaino, Terry Mulholland, Jeff Nelson, Danny Graves, Dustin Hermanson

2013: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Craig Biggio, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa, Mike Piazza, Kenny Lofton, David Wells, Julio Franco, Shawn Green, Steve Finley, Roberto Hernandez, Jeff Cirillo, Jose Valentin, Reggie Sanders, Jeff Conine, Jose Mesa, Royce Clayton, Bob Wickman, Ryan Klesko, Aaron Sele, Woody Williams, Rondell White, Mike Lieberthal, Tony Batista, Mike Stanton, Sandy Alomar Jr., Damian Miller, Todd Walker

2014: Greg Maddux, Frank Thomas, Mike Mussina, Pedro Martinez, Jim Edmonds, Jeff Kent, Luis Gonzalez, Kenny Rogers, Ray Durham, Moises Alou, Richie Sexson, Shannon Stewart, Armando Benitez, Steve Trachsel, Mike Timlin, Keith Foulke, Todd Jones, Mark Grudzielanek, Esteban Loaiza, Freddy Garcia, Jon Lieber, Damion Easley, Trot Nixon, Jacque Jones, Hideo Nomo, J.T. Snow, Jose Vidro, Matt Morris, Jay Payton, Paul Lo Duca, Jose Cruz Jr., Eric Gagne, Paul Byrd, Sean Casey, Scott Hatteberg

What "player", on any of the lists above, based soley on their accomplishments, deserves to be in the Hall more than Pete?

It will be a great day for MLB and for Pete!

I'm neither a Reds fan, nor a Phillies fan .... and not really a Pete Rose fan per se; but I do believe he deserves to be in the Hall.

I don't collect Rose cards, but I would BET strongly that his rookie would increase nicely should he be considered.

JMHO,
PoppaJ

Dboneesq

Poppa ... Very good post ... I am in agreement with you that Pete Rose belongs in the Hall. But when you listed the others that are eligible (STEROIDS notwithstanding and I do NOT want to debate the steroid factor) in the near future I wondered if there was EVER a year where there were so many great players eligible.

2013: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Craig Biggio, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa, Mike Piazza, David Wells

2014: Greg Maddux, Frank Thomas, Mike Mussina, Pedro Martinez, Jeff Kent

Underwraps

I think Rose desrerves to get in and heres why. Who in their right mind believes that Pete was the only betting coach or player, if you do you need to see a shrink right away. The others just haven't got caught yet.

ndleo

I think Selig would be smart to reinstate him. If one of the steroid players gets in, it will look rather silly to leave Pete Rose out of the Hall.

Time and a little steroid scandal heals all wounds. As a player, which is how he would be inducted, he represented the game like a Hall of Famer.

Rose would be smart to stay out of Vegas for a few months until this actually happens.

RoarIn84

as the collecting world goes, people already consider him HOF quality and his cards are collected as much as any other HOFer. there maybe 5-10% spike initially, then back off......

Allen

I agree with roar.

jivan

moot discussion.. he will not get in.. he cheated and admitted it to the commissioner at the time.. done topic

bman90278

I grew up a Pete Rose fan and I think he's one of the greatest players ever and I think its great for baseball if they lift his ban.
I listened to a couple of senior MLB writers on the radio yesterday and they both said Pete Rose will get less than 50% of the vote from the Veterans committee which will not get Pete in the HOF. I heard another MLB Writer that said Pete Rose, Mcgwire, Bonds, and Clemens type players should have a plaque in the HOF that states their records/stats, but it should also state what they did.....Like Pete Rose's plaque would say "banned from MLB for 20 years due to betting on baseball". That way the fans could see their plaque and make their own judgement in regards to what the players did to tarnish their careers.

Brian

fandango

HAVE to let JOE JACKSON in then

more evidence against rose than Jackson...

the man admitted he bet on baseball LIFETIME BAN FOR ROSE end of story

MBMiller25

The fact that the HOF doesnt include Joe Jackson and Pete Rose is a joke! Its tough to set aside what Pete Rose did to the game, the HOF is about your on the field accomplishments, and on the field Pete Rose was one of the greatest ball players around. Until both of these guys are allowed in the HOF, the hall is incomplete.

1960toppsguy

Buy on the speculation, get burnt on the reality . . .

dontippet

<< <i>Poppa ... Very good post ... I am in agreement with you that Pete Rose belongs in the Hall. But when you listed the others that are eligible (STEROIDS notwithstanding and I do NOT want to debate the steroid factor) in the near future I wondered if there was EVER a year where there were so many great players eligible.

2013: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Craig Biggio, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa, Mike Piazza, David Wells

2014: Greg Maddux, Frank Thomas, Mike Mussina, Pedro Martinez, Jeff Kent >>



Few years back: Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken, and Mark McGwire

Robb

I'm more worried about an ambassador to the game like Buck O'Neil getting in before I even begin to care even a little about Pete Rose.

cwazzy

<< <i>I'm more worried about an ambassador to the game like Buck O'Neil getting in before I even begin to care even a little about Pete Rose. >>



Agreed. Although I do believe that Rose should be in the HOF eventually.