New LS market report and TDN's TD display info
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>I am their financial backer >>
This is the first I've heard of this.
You've sung the praises of Legend and vigorously defended Laura on more than one occasion. I'm not alleging anything unethical; however, your financial connection to Legend wasn't disclosed so widely that I could put your previous posts in context.
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<< <i>I am their financial backer >>
This is the first I've heard of this.
You've sung the praises of Legend and vigorously defended Laura on more than one occasion. I'm not alleging anything unethical; however, your financial connection to Legend wasn't disclosed so widely that I could put your previous posts in context. >>
Honestly you may be the only one who did not know this... he also has connections with CAC, just wanna put that out there for your knowledge in the future.
lol
Theres this:
<<We again, wish to thank our long time customer who assembled his Law Collections with us for allowing us to repurchase them. It meant a lot to us. The collections all found different and new homes intact. On two of the sets we have already added new pop 1 coins! We just did not want to see these amazing collections that could never be duplicated busted up. No advertising was needed to sell them, all we did was mention to a few customers we had them and next thing we knew, they were all sold! >>
<<Of course we will have our spectacular inventory including coins from the LV, HAL, and the new McClaren Collections available for inspection and sale. >>
I thought they sold all those big collections intact?
And lastly:
<<And for the record, maybe 2% of the Law Collections did not CAC (we saw some BS on the gossip forums that was totally untrue). >>
Are they talking about here?
edited to add:
Obviously they read here, why comment on your market report, why not comment here instead?
<< <i>Honestly you may be the only one who did not know this... >>
Speety might not be far off.
Bayard, you need to stop looking at those darn coins and spend more time following all the threads.
Respectfully
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
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<< <i>Honestly you may be the only one who did not know this... >>
Speety might not be far off.
Bayard, you need to stop looking at those darn coins and spend more time following all the threads.
Respectfully
It's easy to forget all that association mumbo jumbo and just think of TDN as one of the guys.
Perhaps it would be helpful -- and more transparent -- if TDN pasted a disclaimer, or at least links to Legend and CAC, in his sig line?
<< <i>In Bayard's defense, I would argue that this relationship may not be obvious to the casual observer (for example, one who isn't motivated to search specifically for this connection) or the forum member that hadn't happened upon a thread in which this relationship was discussed explicitly.
Perhaps it would be helpful -- and more transparent -- if TDN pasted a disclaimer, or at least links to Legend and CAC, in his sig line?
In his sigline? That is a little extreme. Do we all need a disclaimer for everything we do or are we just singling out TDN? BTW, I have never met or talked to the guy......
good stuff on these boards I tell ya', good stuff.
<< <i>In Bayard's defense, I would argue that this relationship may not be obvious to the casual observer (for example, one who isn't motivated to search specifically for this connection) or the forum member that hadn't happened upon a thread in which this relationship was discussed explicitly.
Perhaps it would be helpful -- and more transparent -- if TDN pasted a disclaimer, or at least links to Legend and CAC, in his sig line?
Seriously? What does it matter as long as his arguements are sound? I have read very, very few statements by TDN that aren't completely backed up. And for as biased as most of this forum (or at least those that yell the loudest) are against Laura/CAC, TDN has every right to defend her as a friend, business partner, and person.
Maybe I should put a disclaimer in my profile that I am a TDN/Legend/Laura/CAC supporter. That way any slight bias i have in defending them is noted even though my only connection is through some friendships developed on here, my purchasing of coins through them, and in limited meetings at coin shows...
Or we can just have those who like to sling the mud have disclaimers in their profiles too.
<< <i>Perhaps it would be helpful -- and more transparent -- if TDN pasted a disclaimer, or at least links to Legend and CAC, in his sig line? >>
This is silly.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
<< Perhaps it would be helpful -- and more transparent -- if TDN pasted a disclaimer, or at least links to Legend and CAC, in his sig line? >>
This is silly.>>
<< <i>Good report, but afew things stand out to me...
And lastly:
<<And for the record, maybe 2% of the Law Collections did not CAC (we saw some BS on the gossip forums that was totally untrue). >>
Are they talking about here?
edited to add:
Obviously they read here, why comment on your market report, why not comment here instead? >>
Stinkin,
She has a couple times been a very "popular" member here. It's useless for her to post here quite honestly. Anything she posts gets twisted then she fires back, and it's a $#!T throwing contest. Not saying she's right all (or even most...) of the time, but she is an easy target that people know how to get under her skin. She has a HUGE passion for coins and as a result defends everything to the extreme.
And of course she scans the forums. There are a lot of quality collectors here and it's an up-to-the-minute peek into what collectors are wanting and feeling about the overall market and specfic dealers etc.
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>I don't mean to single out TDN, as there are undoubtedly many other business relationships involving members of this board, and real and aspiring sponsors of well-managed promotions™, but this does present a bit of a "teachable moment" IMO. blu62vette, if you were ever in a post exchange where you defended that bluccphotos outfit, it'd be clear from your sig line what your connection was. The same goes for a number of dealers that post on these boards. There are clearly other mechanisms than sig lines to do this, but it is a one way to assure some clarity. >>
Have you clicked his siglines? His collection is called the LEGEND collection and he's never tried to hide the fact that he defends Legend/Laura/CAC and has financial interests in Legend/CAC.
The other link, just to clarify, is for the Liberty Seated Forum where he is a moderator. It is a GREAT website for straight information about any seated coinage!
And of course she scans the forums. There are a lot of quality collectors here and it's an up-to-the-minute peek into what collectors are wanting and feeling about the overall market and specfic dealers etc. >>
<< <i>Financial backer of Legend, investor in CAC......This tells me only one think for sure.....Bruce is smart and he can buy lunch : )............MJ >>
<< <i>Have you clicked his siglines? His collection is called the LEGEND collection and he's never tried to hide the fact that he defends Legend/Laura/CAC and has financial interests in Legend/CAC. >>
It's clear that TDN has impacted numismatics in many positive ways. The careful reader will note that I am not questioning TDN's business acumen, his generosity, the quality of his collection, or his contributions to numismatic learning and fellowship. My point is simple: if I were to engage in discussions with a colleague or acquaintance about any topic, I'd like to know what vested interest they have in it and I would hope, if not expect, that they disclose it. But maybe that's just me....
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<< <i>Good report, but afew things stand out to me...
And lastly:
<<And for the record, maybe 2% of the Law Collections did not CAC (we saw some BS on the gossip forums that was totally untrue). >>
Are they talking about here?
edited to add:
Obviously they read here, why comment on your market report, why not comment here instead? >>
Stinkin,
She has a couple times been a very "popular" member here. It's useless for her to post here quite honestly. Anything she posts gets twisted then she fires back, and it's a $#!T throwing contest. Not saying she's right all (or even most...) of the time, but she is an easy target that people know how to get under her skin. She has a HUGE passion for coins and as a result defends everything to the extreme.
And of course she scans the forums. There are a lot of quality collectors here and it's an up-to-the-minute peek into what collectors are wanting and feeling about the overall market and specfic dealers etc. >>
She is a SUPERSTAR in numismatics......
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
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<< <i>It's clear that TDN has impacted numismatics in many positive ways. The careful reader will note that I am not questioning TDN's business acumen, his generosity, the quality of his collection, or his contributions to numismatic learning and fellowship. My point is simple: if I were to engage in discussions with a colleague or acquaintance about any topic, I'd like to know what vested interest they have in it and I would hope, if not expect, that they disclose it. But maybe that's just me.... >>
What kind of statement is that, brother? Are you saying that you and TDN have been engaging in some kind of discussions about Legend or CAC? Unless he is asking you to buy from or to say something positive about Legend or CAC, he doesn't owe you a disclaimer of any kind.
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<< <i>I am their financial backer >>
This is the first I've heard of this.
You've sung the praises of Legend and vigorously defended Laura on more than one occasion. I'm not alleging anything unethical; however, your financial connection to Legend wasn't disclosed so widely that I could put your previous posts in context. >>
What rock have you been under?
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<< <i>I am their financial backer >>
This is the first I've heard of this.
You've sung the praises of Legend and vigorously defended Laura on more than one occasion. I'm not alleging anything unethical; however, your financial connection to Legend wasn't disclosed so widely that I could put your previous posts in context. >>
What rock have you been under? >>
I think it's called "real life."
As for his defense of Laura, he usually only jumps in when it gets mean-spirited and nasty. When Laura was here, she was able to sufficiently defend herself and did not take prisoners.
I would not mind being the backer and getting first shot at the goods that come thru the door at cost. I would start with the 1901 s quarter bought at melt the other day and go from there.
I am surprised they still need to be backed by him. Has Legend ever had a bad month or show report in context with other dealers?
I would like to see Laura post her with imunity to be bounced. That would be interesting
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working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
A great collector
A wise investor
A good and honest person
He is one of the golden assets of this Forum
He has frequently stated and restated,
his business connections with Legend and CAC.
Whenever he give praise or critique, it is always
true and from his heart.
Camelot
Re the latest market report - this McClaren deal sounds downright cool. It's fun to see that even an oldtime veteran can get excited when a neat deal comes along. I suppose that's the drug that keeps them going!
It shouldn't really matter anyway and having him have to put a disclaimer is just ridiculous. Should we all post what stocks we own or what private companies we invest in ? I think not.
<< <i>Who cares?
I would not mind being the backer and getting first shot at the goods that come thru the door at cost. I would start with the 1901 s quarter bought at melt the other day and go from there.
I am surprised they still need to be backed by him. Has Legend ever had a bad month or show report in context with other dealers?
I would like to see Laura post her with imunity to be bounced. That would be interesting >>
Just can't let it go, can you??
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
Back to the main point Legend has been doing some unbelievably great business, KUDOS.
things about you....could we each have
our $5 now?
Camelot
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<< <i>I am their financial backer >>
This is the first I've heard of this.
You've sung the praises of Legend and vigorously defended Laura on more than one occasion. I'm not alleging anything unethical; however, your financial connection to Legend wasn't disclosed so widely that I could put your previous posts in context. >>
What rock have you been under? >>
This is shocking news to me. It changes everything.
Hm.
I'll get back to you all with the list of changes.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
<< <i>Bruce, after saying all of those nice
things about you....could we each have
our $5 now?
And jelly doughnuts for all!
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<< <i>Bruce, after saying all of those nice
things about you....could we each have
our $5 now?
And jelly doughnuts for all!
I'm in, next time you are in Santa Clara I'll even drive you to the doughnut shop.
<< <i>I'll get back to you all with the list of changes. >>
The information disclosed in this thread have indeed shifted the foundations of government.
The California Political Correctness Committee has met and decided what to do about the revelation to some members that TDN supports Legend Numismatics.
Although not explicitly illegal according to the state constitution, the complex interrelationships are confusing to a new PCGS member, so the following non-binding mitigation steps are suggested:
1) TradeDollarNut's handle has been found to be offensive to at least three different sensitivity groups. A less offensive handle "ExchangeMonitaryEnthusiast" is recommended.
2) An informative sigline is recommended:
"This post is intended for entertainment purposes only. The views expressed within this post are the sole opinion of ExchangeMonitaryEnthusiast and are copyrighted."
3) Please enter me in your more generous giveaway. Thanks!
Monday is too early for this sort of lunacy. It is going to be a hard week.
[edit] It is interesting to see how coin sales have _NOT_ tanked in this allegedly bad economy. Not yet anyway.
Larry
What I have learned over the years is that it isn't THINGS that make life worthwhile, it's EXPERIENCES. For instance, I was recently at the Wynn and they were having a $100,000 promo chip giveaway. You got 3 entries for every blackjack [and other qualifying things] that you got while playing for the week. They paid 8 places, so 1st prize was only $30k in promo chips. The 2nd and 3rd place people had the chance to turn their guaranteed prize in for a chance at double or half by choosing a briefcase held by 2 lovely ladies [Deal or No Deal]. Both declined. Right before my name was drawn for number 1, I stated that of course I would choose a briefcase - and I did! I chose the $50k prize and requested that I keep the briefcase as a souvenier.
The $50k promo was bet and turned into $20k real money half of which I had promised to the dealers. I gave my sis and my brother's gf half of my $10k for helping me fill out all the entry forms [blah!]. So I was left with a mere $5k out of all that big prize money - but so what?! It's not about the possession - it's about the story that I now have to tell for the rest of my life. It's a grand experience!
<< <i>What rock have you been under? >>
<< <i>What kind of statement is that, brother? Are you saying that you and TDN have been engaging in some kind of discussions about Legend or CAC? Unless he is asking you to buy from or to say something positive about Legend or CAC, he doesn't owe you a disclaimer of any kind. >>
<< <i>This is a FREE forum and no disclosures are needed. >>
Some of you brothers are having a little trouble applying empathy and/or inductive reasoning in this situation.
A number of you have been on here since 2002, have written tens of thousands of posts, have read hundreds of thousands, and might even have broken bread (or jelly donuts) with TDN at a coin show. You are bright folk and you pick up a lot of info. You seem surprised when others don't share your knowledge and experience. I guess we human beings are unique....
The FTC has evidently proposed changes to their Guides for Endorsements that encompass, among other situations in electronic media, employees or representatives of companies posting on message boards to "conspicuously and clearly disclose" their relationship with the company to members and readers of the message board. Could you imagine a FREE forum on, say, stock picking where you, as a new reader, might want posters with an interest in or connection to a stock to disclose that interest? I'm not suggesting that the US Coin Forum precisely parallels these situations, and I'm not alleging any impropriety, but the optics is similar IMHO.
<< <i>Tell you what - I'll put that disclosure in my sigline when everyone who owns CLCT stock puts it in theirs. >>
That's a start, TDN!
My guess is that the person who owns one share of CLCT doesn't have quite the level of influence that you do in your ventures or HRH does in his. I would argue that your obligation to disclose is greater.
My disclosure: shares of CLCT I own = 0
You ever try to 'influence' Laura? Good luck with that.
<< <i>You ever try to 'influence' Laura? Good luck with that. >>
Point well taken, TDN!
Larry
I like this thread..TDN is a great guy and has sure never hidden his ties to Legend..
Bruce Scher
And back to that Legend Market report. If I didn't know better, I'd think we're back to July 2008 and the party's once again in full swing.
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