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Mint engraver Francis N. Mitchell. Not pictured in Julian, silver example. Do you like his work?

DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
AM-42 1896 example.

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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,432 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My opinion:

    He appears to be a rather typical, second or third rate 19th century artist. I would not collect "art" medals of this caliber.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My opinion:

    He appears to be a rather typical, second or third rate 19th century artist. I would not collect "art" medals of this caliber. >>



    Not an "art" medal. The dies for this medal are listed(#15) in the Peale register of dies; a note indicates that only gold and silver medals were
    struck prior to about 1852. (Quote Julian).

    Also noted by Julian;

    Several hundred of these medals ,mostly silver, were struck by the late1880's

    "art" medal , explain. Thanks image
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • These are the pieces I consider coin art. Its like a sculpture, but on a coin... I love it!



    Id collect these in a second if I wasnt already completely taxed by my current project just doing the research...





    For the hell of it, whats something like this run?
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Some more "Art" From Mr. Mitchell. Perhaps of better caliber in copper bronze.

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    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,432 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My opinion:

    He appears to be a rather typical, second or third rate 19th century artist. I would not collect "art" medals of this caliber. >>



    Not an "art" medal. The dies for this medal are listed(#15) in the Peale register of dies; a note indicates that only gold and silver medals were
    struck prior to about 1852. (Quote Julian).

    Also noted by Julian;

    Several hundred of these medals ,mostly silver, were struck by the late1880's

    "art" medal , explain. Thanks image >>



    The folks who produced this type of work were the graphic artists of their day. They had some technical ability but produced essentially stock artwork. Very boring stuff ... and "stuff" is a good way to describe it. There is nothing distinctive or innovative. These artists, and there were a lot of them in the 19th century, produced work that would appeal to the general public and not ruffle any feathers. The artwork used on modern US coins falls into the same category.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The folks who produced this type of work were the graphic artists of their day. They had some technical ability but produced essentially stock artwork. Very boring stuff ... and "stuff" is a good way to describe it. There is nothing distinctive or innovative. These artists, and there were a lot of them in the 19th century, produced work that would appeal to the general public and not ruffle any feathers. The artwork used on modern US coins falls into the same category. >>




    So art, any art is not a representative history ?
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,432 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The folks who produced this type of work were the graphic artists of their day. They had some technical ability but produced essentially stock artwork. Very boring stuff ... and "stuff" is a good way to describe it. There is nothing distinctive or innovative. These artists, and there were a lot of them in the 19th century, produced work that would appeal to the general public and not ruffle any feathers. The artwork used on modern US coins falls into the same category. >>




    So art, any art is not a representative history ? >>



    My comments have to do with art and not history.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    duiguy:

    For the first medal, the silver one: The little emblems on the bottom of the reverse (the shield and the Indian) seem most amateurishly done, especially the Indian.
    For that second medal, the copper one: On the reverse, that arm popping up out of nowhere somehow really freaks me out.

    So I guess the bottom line is that I'd collect these not for their intrinsic beauty but instead for their ties with a time long lost.
    Mark


  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mitchell produced a LOT of medals. Another, from a post last year:

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My opinion:

    He appears to be a rather typical, second or third rate 19th century artist. I would not collect "art" medals of this caliber. >>



    Yep. It's pretty, but it looks like a thousand French jetons of the same period. Just not interesting enough to take up space for me.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • I like it. Some think that the stuff they don't collect or care for is wrong.
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I like it. Some think that the stuff they don't collect or care for is wrong. >>




    Tell me it ain't so.... image

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