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Another frustrating BST experience.....

DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I had a BST forum member on July 10th, inquire about a coin I had for sale awhile back.

I answered him(her) on July 12th that it is available.

As of today (july21st) no answer at all. (not even a reply).

The lack of manners exhibited by this person is truly amazing. You think common courtesy to answer an email wouldn't be too much to ask for.

Oh well, forget about it and move on.
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh well, forget about it and move on. >>


    Bingo. Can't win all the time.
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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I had a BST forum member on July 10th, inquire about a coin I had for sale awhile back.

    I answered him(her) on July 12th that it is available.

    As of today (july21st) no answer at all. (not even a reply).

    The lack of manners exhibited by this person is truly amazing. You think common courtesy to answer an email wouldn't be too much to ask for.

    Oh well, forget about it and move on. >>

    Sounds like he inquired of you and you answered. Seems like the silence afterward was your answer.
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It happens, I know I am guilty of this on occasion. We all get busy or maybe inquire on a few coins at the same time. Thing is until they get back to you, you have the right to sell it to others. Dont ever hold back selling waiting for a reply, even more so when it is early in the process.
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  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've had that happen more than once.
  • MoonbiterMoonbiter Posts: 652 ✭✭
    Sorry to hear about your bad experience on the BST. I just recently had a flawless transaction with Broadstruck. I was purchasing a coin from him, and the transaction was smooth, the shipping was stellar and the coin was as beautiful as described and as seen in the images.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has he been logged on? Kept posting?
    This is summer and holiday time for a lot I know, though it may not seem like it to some image, that my personal time on the forums is a LOT less currently.
    I whiz in and out (and, sometimes, I don't quite get to PMs as I will "get to them later when I have time"....though, your point about 9 days is noted).

    On the plus side, I just bought a 2009-S PCGS Proof from Rachel (Samzuzo) on the BST and everything went supersmoothly and in a timely fashion, so it isn't all bad there image

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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    No reply is becoming more an more common way of passing and isn't really considered bad manners any more. JMHO. --Jerry
  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    Man don't take it personal. If that is the biggest gripe you got then you are lucky. Heck its just like qouting any business, you don't get the job all the time. Just forget about it and move on.

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,342 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No reply is becoming more an more common way of passing and isn't really considered bad manners any more. JMHO. --Jerry >>



    Yes, I think you're right, but I still think anyone who doesn't take the time to reply is without manners.

    It's the small things that a person does (and doesn't do) that tells you the big picture of that person.
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    It does happen often and personally I agree with most people that it is very bad manners.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just last night finalized a deal with another member whom I haven't heard from or seen on here since 6/21.

    Turns out he's been blocked at work from surfing the web and too tired at night to log onto the forum.
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've had the "no reply" response on a few insignificant items, and my thought is that those people no longer exist in my universe. It's not as if any such transaction would have made a difference either way, but the sheer rudeness of a "no reply" is disgusting.
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  • PQTypePQType Posts: 471 ✭


    << <i> No reply is becoming more an more common >>



    I agree there is one member that offered coins for sale a few moths back, I tried a number of times to buy one of two of his coins at his price and his terms. No reply.... Then he post them for sale a few weeks after that. On the good side the 99.9 % of the BST members are great.
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  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    For what it's worth, I was on vacation from the 10th until the 20th and in the mountains with terrible cell reception and no email/web.

    It was not me who the OP is talking about, but just pointing out that their could be another reason.

    Although, I do agree it's not very courteous to just not respond. Had I been inquiring, I would've mentioned that I would be out of town and away from my computer after a certain date.

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just last night finalized a deal with another member whom I haven't heard from or seen on here since 6/21.

    Turns out he's been blocked at work from surfing the web and too tired at night to log onto the forum. >>



    I have had someone disappear on me also, I think he last logon was in May.....
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Oh yeah, recently I had somebody inform me on PM that he couldn't deal with me because of some reasoning to the extent that I "won't sign my full name on PM's" or some crap like that. I was planning to start a thread on that later so we'll save the details for now.
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  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    It happens, I know I am guilty of this on occasion. We all get busy or maybe inquire on a few coins at the same time. Thing is until they get back to you, you have the right to sell it to others. Dont ever hold back selling waiting for a reply, even more so when it is early in the process.

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    I've probably been guilty of this too.

    Sometimes we have a few $$ extra and start PM'ing on coins we'd like to have.
    You mentioned it took 2 days to reply to the query.
    Maybe by that time the member had found another coin to buy.
    May (s)he thought it was rude to have to wait 2 days for an answer?
    Also, you mentioned email? Was this via email or PM?
    Might matter, who know the situation.

    Hopefully in time your disdain for this person will lessen in time & possibly sometime in the future you 2 can do business.
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  • stinkinlincolnstinkinlincoln Posts: 2,733 ✭
    Ehhh, thats only one of the small issues sometimes encountered for me on the bst.

    The ones I love are the guys that say they sent a check, only to never send a check. Then post abunch, buy more stuff on the bst, and then ignore your pm's for weeks. Then only to reply sorry they forgot and dont have any more coin money... But all the while buying on the bst and dealer posters...



    Those are the ones I can do without.


    Shouldnt there be a star rating or something for bst transactions?



  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am also guilty of this..I get busy, the PM's drop off and before I know it a couple of weeks have passed and now I am too embarrassed to reply...I apologize to anyone that I have done this to!!

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ehhh, thats only one of the small issues sometimes encountered for me on the bst.

    The ones I love are the guys that say they sent a check, only to never send a check. Then post abunch, buy more stuff on the bst, and then ignore your pm's for weeks. Then only to reply sorry they forgot and dont have any more coin money... But all the while buying on the bst and dealer posters...



    Those are the ones I can do without.


    Shouldnt there be a star rating or something for bst transactions? >>



    FWIW I just had a board member tell me over the weekend that he finally got the check I mailed to him last october.
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  • pakasmompakasmom Posts: 1,920 ✭
    It's awkward to decide not to buy something after having inquired. But I do think it's rude not to man up and communicate that.

    As for you, Wei - "what's your name?" ....... boy oh boy, that guy sure missed out on having a great contact! 'Cause you ROCK!
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,446 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh yeah, recently I had somebody inform me on PM that he couldn't deal with me because of some reasoning to the extent that I "won't sign my full name on PM's" or some crap like that. I was planning to start a thread on that later so we'll save the details for now. >>



    Just sign it Wei To Come and Go image
    (let him not deal with you...I've had nothing but satisfactory dealings with you. His loss....and, if that was his reasoning, then that person sounds a bit psycho and you didn't need him anyway)

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Come on.

    I made a deal to buy a $40 or so slab then I could not remember who on the bargain BST I made the deal with. I looked and looked and between the 300 pm's that came in in a one month period, it was an exhausting task. I believe I accidentally deleted the pm.

    There is also the issue in which I might look at two or three deals in a day. I do forget and the lack of a response by me does not mean I am not interested. It means I might have forgotten to respond.

    There is nothing wrong with a 2nd or even 3rd follow up.

    We can and do forget.

    Also part of the problem is information and multiple communication devices overload.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Best not to major in the minors.

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  • AmigoAmigo Posts: 966 ✭


    I once had PM'd that I very much wanted the item and would pay full price. I never heard back. I PM'd a couple more times over the next week or so ...... still never heard anything.
    About a year later he PM's me and says it's still available. I was thrilled to finally have it. True story.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,147 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No reply is becoming more an more common way of passing and isn't really considered bad manners any more. JMHO. --Jerry >>


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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    Don't sweat the small stuff.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No reply is becoming more an more common way of passing and isn't really considered bad manners any more. JMHO. --Jerry >>



    It's rude and inconsiderate. JMHO.---Perry

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I personally think it is rude, when a seller has an active sale on the bst and does not answer a question within 24 hours. Not responding to a later pm might be like not leaving a tip at a restaurant to let the waitress know of one's dissatisfaction. There may be several very good excuses for either being late with their responses, but may never surface due to lack of good communication. As stated before, a good policy would be to explain both seller and buyer's reasons in another post. We all need each other and shouldn't look for reasons to not get along, as enough will occur naturally.
    JMHO
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the nature of communication by PM is inherently problematic for carrying out transactions, as one party is essential dependent on the other party to be available on the forum in real time or at their convenience. In this case, the OP did not respond to the inquiry until two days later. It is likely that the inquiring party felt blown off and moved on.

    I had an occasion, a couple years ago, in which I offered a group of coins for sale on the BST. I had a casual inquiry from a forum member on one coin and then a real cash offer for the whole group. I tried getting in touch with the first party by email (my only other means of contact), and after about an hour or so and no response, I sold the whole group to to the party who made the cash offer. (Seven birds in the hand is worth maybe a bird in the bush. image ) I felt badly about it, and the first party was disappointed.
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Come on.

    I made a deal to buy a $40 or so slab then I could not remember who on the bargain BST I made the deal with. I looked and looked and between the 300 pm's that came in in a one month period, it was an exhausting task. I believe I accidentally deleted the pm.

    There is also the issue in which I might look at two or three deals in a day. I do forget and the lack of a response by me does not mean I am not interested. It means I might have forgotten to respond.

    There is nothing wrong with a 2nd or even 3rd follow up.

    We can and do forget.

    Also part of the problem is information and multiple communication devices overload. >>



    agreed. people are fast to assume often times. the coin can be sold to anyone at any time. I bet the person either forgot or is very busy work , vacation , life, family these can all take priority. I was actually called out here on the board one time and it was a crazy few weeks for me way too much going on that person assumed and was wrong. Give people the benefit of the doubt and sell the coin to someone else if you wish to.
  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    If the initial inquiry was just asking whether the coin was still availabl, and you confirmed it was, and you didn't hear back...I don't think that is too much to get excited about. There are 100 reasons why you might not hear back...and bad manners is only one of them. Believe it or not...some folks who post here are pretty busy doing real jobs and other stuff and may drop pursuit of a coin at any time for any reason. I don't think I would be offended by someone who just asked if I still have a coin available and then didn't follow up after I replied. Man, it doesn't take much to get some folks riled!

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  • Kdog08Kdog08 Posts: 771
    Maybe he got banned!
  • Weather11amWeather11am Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭
    I am also guilty of this now and then... I try to do this as rarely as possible, but I do get busy. I am not offended when this has happened to me. I don't really think it is a big deal especially compared with other potential problems.
  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720 ✭


    << <i>Man don't take it personal. If that is the biggest gripe you got then you are lucky. Heck its just like qouting any business, you don't get the job all the time. Just forget about it and move on................ Partagas >>




    I agree.
    I quote work all the time that I don't get and I don't get any response from the customer.
    Don't get upset over things like this.

    Ray

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