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Whats going on with Sgc?? Since when they authenticate fake autos????

This auto is 100% fake. I don't know how sgc graded this as a buy back without getting it check to see if its authtenticated. Sgc has just gave scammers a new way to make money.



Jeter Sp With A 100% Fake Auto
Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


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  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Possible cracked slab with fake flip? That card also has an awful lot of white showing to grade a 7.
  • sgc doesn't authenticate autos. They grade the cards. They don't offer any autograph authentication services.

    It does look shady to grade cards that are forged.
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    I don't think that's an real SGC flip.
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  • ddfamfddfamf Posts: 507 ✭✭
    This auto is 100% fake. I don't know how sgc graded this as a buy back without getting it check to see if its authtenticated. Sgc has just gave scammers a new way to make money.

    The proper thing to do would be to ask on the SGC board if this is a legitimate slab and legitimate certification number.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    OK, there are now way too many people using that Pujols avatar...
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    Fake buy backs are going to be around a long time........its a HUGE problem with modern cards
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Not sure based on the flip that SGC is authenticating the autograph?? They are just saying that it is an UD buyback card.
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    They dont authenticate the autograph, just the card.
  • Isnt that the card i couldve sworn was real a few weeks back
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  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭
    How is it fake? The hologram numbers match.
    I am 99.8% sure that is a legit SGC flip and the sig looks good to me?
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  • FWIW For this release I've read their getting the hologram stickers made. I have no proof though and likely someone just said that not based on any facts.

    I know for a fact their pulling stickers off cheaper Bowman Originals Buyback cards and reusing but that's a different hologram than these.

    I'm getting kinda paranoid. Came home from work and this kid was claiming to be my boy. Looked the same but his hair was shorter. Possibly a haircut but it's best to be safe, so I threw him out. image
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  • the auto is fake. like i said before & i dont want to ruffle any feathers by saying it but i'm a expert when it comes to jeters auto. i do have the credentials to prove it.

    i understand that sgc just graded the card but you see where the problem is?? any scammer can make a fake buy back & then get it encapsulated.

    a easy way now for the scammer to pass the card off as REAL.
    Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
    1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    If you email Brian @ SGC he will likely handle your concerns quickly.
  • i do have the credentials to prove it.

    What are they Please??
  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭
    please explain how you can see enough of the auto to make the guess based on his picture...

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  • << <i>please explain how you can see enough of the auto to make the guess based on his picture...

    image >>



    i'm a expert when it comes to jeters auto. posted by MinorLeagueSource
  • a few people on here know who i am & know my credentials.
    if you dont want to believe me then dont but i wil bet anyone, anything that it is 100% fake.
    Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
    1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    To answer your original question they don't.

    Don't ask me how I know this I just do.


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  • << <i>a few people on here know who i am & know my credentials.
    if you dont want to believe me then dont but i wil bet anyone, anything that it is 100% fake. >>



    i do have the credentials to prove it.

    I have asked what are your credentials,, if you won't post them then I say BS you don't have any.
  • i was a authenticator for 1 of the 2 top companies.

    i'm still used as a consultant on jeter, jose a pujols & all new prospects.
    Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
    1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


  • MinorLeagueSource:


    When time permits Please check your PM;s
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    The Jeter auto is garbage. The problem starts with the D and ends with the last mark of the sharpie at the end of the autograph.
  • tedh111tedh111 Posts: 258
    The card is definatly fake. The seller has been brought up numerous times on other message baords.
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  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    And I dont need "credentials" to know that it is a fake autograph.
  • I posted thie auction on thr SGC board. I hope someone over there can get it taken down.

    Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
    1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    I think with this issue of buyback fake autos coming to a head. The companies that issued the cards originally need to step in and help out.

    If they are going to issue holorgrams and such on the back of these cards they should be able to have a database that records what card and auto is assigned to those holograms. They also need to have better tamper proofing of either the holograms or cases.

    I think UD and Topps should help out in identifiying fakes.
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  • ddfamfddfamf Posts: 507 ✭✭
    I see by the thread on the SGC board about this topic that UD has been contacted a few times regarding the authenticity of this autograph.

    Upper Deck believes this to be an authentic autograph.
  • BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> i do have the credentials to prove it. >>



    Then prove it!! Please come to this board with answers on why it's fake.

    I have a ball signed by Jeter that I got in person in 1996. My ball and that card look the same to me. But then again I'm not an expert.
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You guys have good eyes - to me the sigs are close and no one signs the same way every single time.

    I'm not doubting anyone's credentials since I have none - but who would go thru all that trouble - faking holograms and stuff and using an authentic card for a few extra bucks?

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    The guy would do better stealing gumball machines from 7-11s!

    mike
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  • << <i>but who would go thru all that trouble - faking holograms and stuff and using an authentic card for a few extra bucks?
    >>



    Raw 93 SP Jeters sell for $50 or less. The buyback auto'd Jeter in question will probably ell for $2000-2500. Two grand is more than a few bucks and worth the trouble for a scammer that knows what they are doing.
  • someone just explain to me in a educated way how this card with a UD holdgram on the back of the card is real???

    sp buyback jeter

    ITS NOT!!

    this is how easy it is to make 2k:

    Product Authentication Holograms for Collectibles and Memorabilia - NovaVision

    best regards!
    Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
    1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭


    << <i>i was a authenticator for 1 of the 2 top companies.

    i'm still used as a consultant on jeter, jose a pujols & all new prospects. >>



    MinorLeagueSource,
    Maybe if you could just point to some specifics on why this is not an authentic autograph, this thread may go a little smoother. I guess from my perspective, if it was very obvious, SGC would've picked up on this, even if they are just grading the card and not the auto. I'm not doubting your credentials, but you haven't really provided much in the way of firm evidence. I know zip about autos, so I'm eager to learn why its an obvious fake.
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  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    I keep reading about these so called fake buybacks.
    If the auto is fake, and the hologram is fake, does that mean the scammer
    produce or made a buyback COA card as well? Now that's talent!
  • tedh111tedh111 Posts: 258
    With most of the buybacks, the COA and stickers are real, just not the autograph. Essentially, you would remove the sticker from a legitiamte buyback, put it on the new card and then fake the autograph.
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  • all you have to do is have a 1 buy back card & produce as many fakes you want.


    the D is wrong, the HOOPS arent mushroomed & the R
    Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
    1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


  • Does the Pujols avatar make people crazy or do crazy people pick the Pujols avatar?? Same thing goes for the Yoda avatar. Strange bunch of people. And Yes, I do have credentials to make these claims. Please do not try this at home.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,472 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>but who would go thru all that trouble - faking holograms and stuff and using an authentic card for a few extra bucks?
    >>



    Raw 93 SP Jeters sell for $50 or less. The buyback auto'd Jeter in question will probably ell for $2000-2500. Two grand is more than a few bucks and worth the trouble for a scammer that knows what they are doing. >>

    Wow - I had no idea someone would pay that kind of money.

    Yes, it's worth the trouble to pick up a few grand - to anyone who thinks they're not real? Contact UD - they may have something to say.

    I rarely say this since it's up to an individual to decide what's of value - but that kind of money for Jeter?

    I pulled a Jeter auto from a pack - they're not exactly rare - and just because it says 1/5? It's still his auto - talk about man-made rarity? Wow is all I can say.

    Thanx for the info.
    mike
    Mike
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828
    People are taking $1.00 common Topps autographs, taking the Topps hologram off the back. Putting it on an Albert Pujols or Alex Rodriguez card. Signing the card. Numbering the card. And selling it as a buyback.

    Scammers are also taking the autograph sticker off of cards. Taking the autograph off the sticker with alcohol, signing the sticker, placing it on a new card, and placing the hologram on it as well.

    The above Jeter seems to have gone through a swtich a roo with the real one, or maybe both the hologram and coa card are fake. There have been talks about fake UDA holograms out there.

  • Theres a lot of fake buyback ARODS out there
    Buying or trading for these signed Jeter rc's:
    1992 GCL, 93 Stadium Club, 93 Greensboro,, 93 South Atlantic League, 93 Topps Marlins & Rockies,, 94 Classic Tampa, 94 Procards Tampa, 94 Florida State League & 95 Columbus Clippers.


  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does the Pujols avatar make people crazy or do crazy people pick the Pujols avatar?? Same thing goes for the Yoda avatar. Strange bunch of people. And Yes, I do have credentials to make these claims. Please do not try this at home. >>



    The difference is that Yoda speaks and produces facts and only speaks about things he knows for fact. Fact #1 is that MinorLeagueSource is claiming that he was an authenticator at BGS or PSA although he won't be specific. I will be specific . . . Fact #2 is that I was a Senior Grader/Authenticator at SGC many moons ago and have probably forgotten more about the hobby than some of the know-it-all's will ever know. But that is neither here nor there.

    Fact #3 is that the inconsistent implementation and distribution of the Buy Back cards and the public's lack of knowledge about them is being abused. SGC is not immune to the abuse that some people are perpetuating on the hobby by creating bogus Buy Backs and using third party graders to encapsulate the cards (albeit, these companies ARE NOT authenticating the signatures) and then pawning them off on unsuspecting buyers while using the TPG's as a guise to add authenticity to the material. Sad, sad, sad...

    Fact #4 is that someone will post some wiseazzed comment to the above, but will add nothing more than their juvenile charm.
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