Grandfather's Basement Story
daveacpaBoston
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Trying to educate myself on reprint cards. This ebay seller
is listing cards he found in his grandfather's basement as
reprint cards. The cards are going for decent money and his
feedback is good. Is there a way to tell if the cards are authentic
or not.
Ted Williams
is listing cards he found in his grandfather's basement as
reprint cards. The cards are going for decent money and his
feedback is good. Is there a way to tell if the cards are authentic
or not.
Ted Williams
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Edit: Isn't this the same card????? Link
<< <i>Stock looks way too white imo. I'd say fake. >>
Oh yes, I should have added, I wouldn't touch that card.
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Never could understand why people find it necessary to tell others where they got the card!
The only reason might be to make someone wonder if it might just be authentic!!!!
PoppaJ
Guess if I were going to buy a fake I'd rather do it at a 6.95 BIN than a $70+ auction price.
<< <i>Does anyone else agree the link I posted is the same card... one of them just stole the image?
Guess if I were going to buy a fake I'd rather do it at a 6.95 BIN than a $70+ auction price. >>
Different card. Easiest way for me to tell is compare the top black horizontal line.
I agree that it's at least the same reprint.
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My husband had a heart attack.....
My boyfriend left and I have his cards....
An on going web of deceit thrown at buyers by the sellers. Very strange selling tactics. Those cards are reprints. I say this because anyone with half a brain would take them to a card shop in order to get an assessment of the cards authenticity. Run Joe, Run!!
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13 Positive FB's even a Ruth >>
pathetic...
"I do not know what these cards are worth..."
I guess he doesn't know how to use the search feature in ebay....
Buyer - hopes guy doesn't know what they have and getting a 'steal.'
So, it seems both are kind of scamming each other? Or else, what the heck are these people thinking? They look so not real.
Go figure.
mike
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Long story short I paid waaaaaaaaaay too much money for some reprints. Oh well, I knew what the risk was and went forward anyway - sometimes you get lucky, most of the time you don't.
And yes I did leave positive feedback!
<< <i>Trying to educate myself on reprint cards. This ebay seller
is listing cards he found in his grandfather's basement as
reprint cards. The cards are going for decent money and his
feedback is good. Is there a way to tell if the cards are authentic
or not.
Ted Williams >>
a smart buyer's "rule" for ebay - if a seller even hints in the least little bit that it's a reprint, then it's definitively a reprint.
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<< <i>As soon as I read any description that mentions a relative that passed away, I always exit asap!
Never could understand why people find it necessary to tell others where they got the card!
The only reason might be to make someone wonder if it might just be authentic!!!!
PoppaJ >>
Bingo!!
<< <i>Now the little POS has a 51 Bowman Mantle they're bidding up - seems like crime does pay on ebay. >>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mantle-ROOKIE-Baseball-Card-253_W0QQitemZ250467000385QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sports_Cards?hash=item3a50ff2041&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A2125|293%3A1|294%3A50
of these cards if they are willing to pay $100 - $200 plus for these cards.
You would think one of them would have noticed the erasing of the
word reprint, as Scott pointed out, yet there is no negative feedback.
Either the seller is scamming a lot of people or the buyers know what they are
getting and will try to sell them for more money as authentic cards.
I think I'll stay away from anyone involved in any of these auctions.
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own policy regarding authenticity disclaimers.
IMO, the SCAMSTER has likely successfully met the minimal burden of EBAY's TOS.
Authenticity Disclaimers
Sellers may not disclaim knowledge of, or responsibility for, the authenticity or legality of the items offered in their listings. Sellers should take steps to ensure that their items are authentic before listing them on eBay. If a seller cannot verify the authenticity of an item, the seller is not permitted to list it.
Some Examples
The following statements violate eBay's Authenticity Disclaimer Policy:
"I cannot guarantee the authenticity of this item, so please bid accordingly."
"Vintage Handbag Chanel???"
“Looks like it could be a Louis Vuitton bag”
“I believe this is painted by Degas, but can’t be sure.”
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The SCAMMER's lingo:
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Mantle ROOKIE Baseball Card #253
You are bidding on card listed above.
Card was found cleaning out grandfather's house after he passed.
Do to other financial obligations I must sell.
I am listing card as a reprint. Please bid accordingly.
THANK YOU FOR BIDDING AND GOODLUCK!!!
I hate to add this but due to some recent dead beats, do not bid if you due not intend to purchase.
All payments are due within 48 hours of end of auction.
Please let me know if you need to make exceptions, I do not mind working with you if you let me know.
All sales are final!!!
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But........
Does
"I cannot guarantee the authenticity of this item, so please bid accordingly."
EQUAL
"I am listing card as a reprint. Please bid accordingly."
As a parser of words, I think NOT. I would like to be wrong, but I don't think I am.
However, the disclaimer MIGHT not withstand a PayPal SNAD-claim.
(Language designed to "mislead or confuse" can form the basis of a successful SNAD-claim.)
<< <i>Sorry, but if you can't read between the lines on an auction like this then it's curtains for you anyway. Your money is either going to this guy, or on the Big Wheel at the local Indian casino, and personally I could care less which of these enterprises ends up with it. >>
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When my hatred for humans runs wild, I often want to adopt that position.
But, natural law simply cannot sanction theft from the stupid; and, positive
law should not do so either.
<< <i>Once again, a rip-off artist who can't spell... "Do (instead of Due) to other financial obligations I must sell". >>
you could be right...could also be a clever scammer "pretending" to be dumb in order to better fool the fish.
Wouldn't surprise me if this seller has done this numerous times before with other ebay names.
Since this seller has changed his wording only thing I could go for was that the cards were in the wrong category (eBay has a place for reprints) and his current listings are gone.
I also explained how he was using the line in previous listings that due to eBay policy that he must list it as a reprint and asked them to study the backs of the cards were it looked as if the wording reprint had been erased.
And just as I was typing this out I checked his Ted Williams link at the start of this thread and that one is gone as well.
And finally johnnybill78 ( 9 ) Not a registered user
Jeff
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<< <i>Since this seller has changed his wording only thing I could go for was that the cards were in the wrong category (eBay has a place for reprints) and his current listings are gone. >>
"Reprint" is a non-display subcat of "OTHER."
Back to Search Results | Listed in category: Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Cards > Baseball-MLB > Other
HUNDREDS of "legit" reprints are listed/displayed just like the instant SCAMMER's were.
The word "reprint" does not display in the search line. Only the word "other" displays.
The word "reprint," when selected on the SYIF, shows in the "item specifics" section
of the listing, but not in the search results line at the top of the listing page.
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<< <i>I also explained how he was using the line in previous listings that due to eBay policy that he must list it as a reprint and asked them to study the backs of the cards were it looked as if the wording reprint had been erased. >>
I suspect that is what did the trick.
The "EBAY policy" lingo was clearly designed to mislead.
<< <i>The "EBAY policy" lingo was clearly designed to mislead. >>
Ain't that the truth. Gives me a headache to read some of it.
Jeff
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