How about an Eliasberg "Picture Thread" ?

richardshipp

I've heard that just because it says "Eliasberg" doesn't mean the coin is always nice... I don't know.... Let's post some and see?

Here's my only one:

messydesk

In an ANACS 60 holder. Has hairlines. Would probably cross as a 92.

stinkinlincoln

Id sooner to believe they are all nice, Eliasbergs coins, than not.

That man KNEW quality.

I have zero coins with his pedigree, but I know someone here who does... Maybe realone will be around to post some of his top pop pedigreed killer coins......

HTubbs

<< <i>I've heard that just because it says "Eliasberg" doesn't mean the coin is always nice >>



I would somewhat agree with this statement. However I would say rephrase it more more along the lines of "I've heard that just because it says "Eliasberg" doesn't mean the coin is always the best example available" . I've owned/handled at least 10 Eliasberg pedigreed coins and it has surprised me that it many cases the coin he chose to fill a certain spot was a so-so average Joe example. I've seen some rather common coins that were in XF, when BU coins were not that expensive and easily available. My speculation is that since these coins were so common, he knew that he could easily upgrade to a much nicer example at any time and simply opted for a hole-filler. Needless to say a large portion of his collection is indeed very,very nice material.

Here's a coin I currently have on hand(ssp). I think some collectors do not realize that he put together a fantastic world coin collection:

DorkGirl

MidLifeCrisis

I have owned a few coins pedigreed to Eliasberg.

My opinion is that the majority of Eliasberg's coins were nice...but not all of them.

I believe Eliasberg focused on completeness more than he did exceptional quality. I think the closer he got to achieving his goal of a complete collection, the more this was true.

Edited: Sorry...I can't post a picture right now.

RYK

EagleEye

This is one of Eliasberg's showcases. These were used for the 1976 Mint exhibition. The 1857 says "recut date" which is mentioned in the auction catalog.





By purchasing the Clapp collection, he automatically had a very high quality collection.

19Lyds

<< <i>I have owned a few coins pedigreed to Eliasberg.

My opinion is that the majority of Eliasberg's coins were nice...but not all of them.

I believe Eliasberg focused on completeness more than he did exceptional quality. I think the closer he got to achieving his goal of a complete collection, the more this was true. >>



My take on Eliasberg was that he simply wanted to have 1 of each coin available AND he had a lot of money which he was willing to devote to his collection(s).
While he may have had some really nice examples of coins, I think its his name and the pedigree associated with that name, along with its solidification in "Numismanic" History, that is the real attraction.



And yes, I said Numismanic history since Numismatics can get a little nuts at times!

commoncents05

PCGS PR64 formerly NGC PF66.






-Paul

KentuckyJ

I was a novice and sent this one back. Some little microscopic something spooked me :::sigh::: wish I hadn't been so picky. In retrospect, a really very nice coin ...

SeattleSlammer

I had this Eliasberg one briefly from our friends at CRO, before swapping it for my avatar commem.........PCGS 66, 1891 German East Africa 1/2 Rupee:

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richardshipp

Are we allowed to say HOLY CRAP on here?

Shortgapbob

I think that one thing to consider is that Eliasberg did not purchase any of these coins in certified holders. These were all purchased raw and sold in his auction raw. So a coin that we look back on now and say, "well that coin really isn't all there for being in a MS-66 holder" wasn't in a holder when he owned it or when it was auctioned in his sale. A coin that isn't solid as a MS-66, for example, can still be very nice and maybe a super PQ MS-65. It is my feeling that there was some generous grading with many of his coins that came out of the sale. The coins are still nice, but maybe just not at the stated numerical grade.

intence

love it commoncents!

renomedphys

This is the only one I have. It's a PCGS Proof 66 RB, and may be the only PCGS Matte Proof Lincoln attributed to Eliasberg. I also have the original Bowers auction catalogue, which only describes the coin as "one of the finest seen". It is also stated that the cents in this date range were purchased from Clapp, who purchased the coins directly from the mint. 1912 is the third most difficult date in the MPL series, comes with a 3x multiplier in the registry, and is particularly hard to find in high gem state. This is further evidenced by the seemingly large percentage of 1912 MPLs graded in PR65 and above that come spotted and unattractive. I will admit that this coin is not quite as attractive as many other PR66 MPLs I've handled, but it is the nicest I've seen for a 1912, and the presence of the name Eliasberg on the label is quite alluring.

KentuckyJ

> I will admit that this coin is not quite as attractive as many other PR66 MPLs I've handled


I don't see much of anything wrong with it. Nice coin! No need to apologize!

BloodMan

Here are two more...


1881-S $5, Ex. RYK (and Eliasberg)





1874 $20, Ex. Eliasberg